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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: wabash2015]
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06/27/24 05:11 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I have 12” graphs on an 18-1/2 foot skeeter. Trust me…they are too big. Also have lithiums, dual poles, spot lock trolling motor, padded carpet, hot foot, hydraulic plate, AT2….pretty much everything a 21ft loaded boat has.
I’ve spent WAY MORE than a new boat would have cost.
That’s why I say it’s IMPOSSIBLE to buy a 18-1/2 foot boat loaded up for under $50,000.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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06/27/24 05:14 PM
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nfhbass
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I have 12” graphs on an 18-1/2 foot skeeter. Trust me…they are too big. Also have lithiums, dual poles, spot lock trolling motor, padded carpet, hot foot, hydraulic plate, AT2….pretty much everything a 21ft loaded boat has.
I’ve spent WAY MORE than a new boat would have cost.
That’s why I say it’s IMPOSSIBLE to buy a 18-1/2 foot boat loaded up for under $50,000. Steez, how fast does your boat go when it’s flashed to 231hp?
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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06/27/24 05:15 PM
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Mark Perry
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I have 12” graphs on an 18-1/2 foot skeeter. Trust me…they are too big. Also have lithiums, dual poles, spot lock trolling motor, padded carpet, hot foot, hydraulic plate, AT2….pretty much everything a 21ft loaded boat has.
I’ve spent WAY MORE than a new boat would have cost.
That’s why I say it’s IMPOSSIBLE to buy a 18-1/2 foot boat loaded up for under $50,000. "Loaded" with accessories is easily $15,000 or more additional these days.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: wabash2015]
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06/27/24 05:25 PM
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nfhbass
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I think the absolute best route to take these days is to buy a lightly used.
There are really nice 19’ with 200s that are 2-3 years old for 50.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: nfhbass]
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06/27/24 06:18 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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I think the absolute best route to take these days is to buy a lightly used.
There are really nice 19’ with 200s that are 2-3 years old for 50. Yes this, the boat I'm running I bought in the month of November in 2021. It was well kept and slicker than a new penny with 147 hours on it, I got it off Billy Sartin as a consignment boat. I think I was right around $33k out the gate with Power Pole, Blades, 2012 electronics, and a Fortrex . One with current electronics, TM, and shallow water anchors would probably run you in the $40k's or more. If you are worried about it being slow don't, mine will turn numbers most boats with a 250 will turn carrying a small tackle store.
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: wabash2015]
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06/27/24 06:49 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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New SHO…$20,800 Dual poles…$4300 with mounting brackets Lithium battery package $2000 Gauges for motor…$900 Four HDS graphs…$8200 AT2….$1600 Sonic Hub 2, EP2, added cables $800 Ultrex 80lb iPilot Link …$2800 Just this “stuff” puts a boat past $40k…..NOT INCLUDING THE BOAT AND TRAILER AND TAXES!!! My boat started as a one owner and had 42 hours. I paid $15k cash. I have bought everything listed above, plus new carpet and fully padded bow to stern, new seats, new windshields, new fuel tanks, new wiring, new ignition switch, new keel guard, new LED lighting, remote drain plug, new pumps(5 of them), sea deck in the cockpit area, new rod straps, bait organizer on the starboard rod locker, recessed trolling tray, and a new SkeeterBuilt trailer. I know for a fact I could have just bought a brand new boat for less. Top speed with the flash and 25p mercury prop is 76-ish @ 6250 rpm.(rev limit set to 6200). . Stable as a rock It could go 80 with a lighter load, a 26p, and the rev limiter raised to 6500. But it’s way fast enough.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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06/27/24 06:53 PM
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west tex angler
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Meanwhile Falcon just released an 18' bass boat under $45,000 and people are still bitching that it's not this or that. To hear it told on here if a manufacturer did that very thing they would sell a ton of them. Hopefully those people put their money where their mouth is. i've been buying Phoenix and Skeeters but after looking around, I bought a new Falcon 21' Predator less than a year ago. Cost me about $11,000 less than the others. I love the boat, but a new major health issue has only let me put 8 hrs on it and I will need to sell it. Falcon uses the old Stratos hull and that was a fast boat. The Bass Classic was won by a guy in a Falcon. Anway I will post it on this forum in a week or two, but I thought I would bring it up. Good luck, and if anyone is interested, just PM me.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: west tex angler]
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06/27/24 06:55 PM
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grandbassslayer
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Meanwhile Falcon just released an 18' bass boat under $45,000 and people are still bitching that it's not this or that. To hear it told on here if a manufacturer did that very thing they would sell a ton of them. Hopefully those people put their money where their mouth is. i've been buying Phoenix and Skeeters but after looking around, I bought a new Falcon 21' Predator less than a year ago. Cost me about $11,000 less than the others. I love the boat, but a new major health issue has only let me put 8 hrs on it and I will need to sell it. Falcon uses the old Stratos hull and that was a fast boat. The Bass Classic was won by a guy in a Falcon. Anway I will post it on this forum in a week or two, but I thought I would bring it up. Good luck, and if anyone is interested, just PM me. You think the boat brand has anything to do with his win? He probably could’ve won out of a pontoon boat…
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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06/27/24 07:04 PM
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Mark Perry
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Meanwhile Falcon just released an 18' bass boat under $45,000 and people are still bitching that it's not this or that. To hear it told on here if a manufacturer did that very thing they would sell a ton of them. Hopefully those people put their money where their mouth is. i've been buying Phoenix and Skeeters but after looking around, I bought a new Falcon 21' Predator less than a year ago. Cost me about $11,000 less than the others. I love the boat, but a new major health issue has only let me put 8 hrs on it and I will need to sell it. Falcon uses the old Stratos hull and that was a fast boat. The Bass Classic was won by a guy in a Falcon. Anway I will post it on this forum in a week or two, but I thought I would bring it up. Good luck, and if anyone is interested, just PM me. You think the boat brand has anything to do with his win? He probably could’ve won out of a pontoon boat… Nope but guaranteed it put the brand in front of some eyes that had not seen it before. I don't anyone is gonna run out to emulate the guy but no doubt it raised brand awareness. Its been proven too many times in history. Marketing and brand awareness works.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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06/27/24 07:12 PM
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Harleydude
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Meanwhile Falcon just released an 18' bass boat under $45,000 and people are still bitching that it's not this or that. To hear it told on here if a manufacturer did that very thing they would sell a ton of them. Hopefully those people put their money where their mouth is. I don't know if you will see a bunch in the circles you run in. Hell my 19 foot with a 200 is usually the baby of the bunch at take off. I would suspect the casual fisherman, entry level, high school dad would take a hard look at it. Or at least they should. That brand is kinda off radar for most people and their distribution network isn't big. Who sells them around here. It was just funny to me because you get a ton of guys on threads saying how manufacturers have gotten away from the 18' bats and if a company made one tgen it would do very well. Then Falcon does it and 75% of the replies are bitching about the trolling motor, graph sizes, HP etc..... The people bitching typically aren’t in the market and/or can’t afford the offering in the first place. Much less what they think they actually want ina rigged out boat. They just want to bitch every time something new and unobtainable to them is brought to market. Got to tear it down to feel better.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: wabash2015]
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06/27/24 07:27 PM
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west tex angler
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I mentioned that the Classic was won out of a Falcon. That has nothing to do with him winning, but when dealers start getting spoiled, Watch out because your pricing will create more competition.
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: wabash2015]
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06/28/24 01:34 PM
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BCB
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This threads carried a lot of comments and a lot of opinion. It’s notable that last quarters annual aluminum and fiberglass bass boats were up 2%, on the registration data released two weeks ago, mid June on an R12. Yes, some of that is dealers reducing inventory, while the other part is people must be in a buying mode. It’s nice to see normal as we are well into those 2017 normalcy year patterns on the bass market. Mercury and others primed their lines to run during the largest market expansion we’ve seen since the mid 1980’s. No way that was sustainable as they reached to expand when their foreign competition couldn’t.
SC-001 is right in the only thing that will bring them down is the coming of a Great Recession. That’s money losing survival modes, cut your losses if you can and operate. During the 1980’s and 2009 (‘10) era downturns people bought less all the way around also. Less boats, less boat, less gear and settled for less in some cases. During the 1980’s downturn the market lost 66% of HIN registrations. That’s 66% of bass boat builders that went out of business during that economy. A solid number was lost in fall of 2000, before 9/11/2001, when OMC filed bankruptcy, as did many others.
Then there are those which had an incident that drives them to buy, when they otherwise wouldn’t, much like totaling a truck, or blowing an engine. There are all sorts of driving forces that control markets. Most on the comments here are based on their finances and plan over time. Not everyone’s on the same financial plane.
Rick
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
[Re: wabash2015]
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06/28/24 02:21 PM
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The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be. --John Gierach
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
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06/28/24 02:22 PM
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J.P. Greeson
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The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be. --John Gierach
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed?
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06/28/24 02:22 PM
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The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be. --John Gierach
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