Ukraine is a European issue and Europe needs to fix it. There is nothing Ukraine can offer or provide that we need bad enough to justify what we have spent. Every bullet or bomb we send them is one less for our troops. The $$$ dumped jn Ukraine should have been put into our own defense.

Our involvement in Ukraine has seriously weakened us at a time when we need to be building up.

As someone who has strongly supported assisting Ukraine against Russia, I must now say I think we are pushing our luck way too far. Up until about 3-4 months ago I think we were getting a pretty fantastic ROI on our money (mostly old weapons systems) destroying the Russian war machine. Their ability to conduct ground offensives has been diminished to the point of irrelevancy. Russia now poses basically zero threat to NATO through conventional war. We've exhausted our old stockpiles (many of which we would have had paid to have decommissioned anyway) and are sending new stuff that's costing us real money and pushing Putin into a corner.

I don't know where this ends, but allowing Ukraine to use US weapons against Russia in Russia is a step too far in my opinion. We are walking a very fine line with WWIII right now.

Did you seriously expect any other outcome if we got involved? Do you really expect government to make sound, logical decisions as to when enough is enough? When has that ever happened in our history regarding a war we have been direct combatants in or assisting in?

We simply could look at the Middle East as an example of how deep and complicated our involvement would become.



I've said it before and I am saying it again. The US is like that 3 time divorced friend we all have that wants to give everyone else relationship advice. Meanwhile they can't fix anything in their own lives.

The US needs to focus on the US for a while. We need to step away from being the world's cop and handing out charity to every nation but our own. Let's fix us first. We have reached a point where citizens of other countries are more important and theur needs put first over Americans. This has to stop. We have our issues to focus on.

I think your initial view of the situation was flawed. Looking at it through a ROI lens has given you a skewed perspective.

I can't wait until the F16's show up. Salva Ukraini! Putin will not use nuclear weapons. He can't even protect Moscow or his oil refineries from cheap drones.

I can't until the Swiss joins WWWIII...

I can't wait until the F16's show up. Salva Ukraini! Putin will not use nuclear weapons. He can't even protect Moscow or his oil refineries from cheap drones.