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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: grout-scout] #15103440 06/16/24 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Ok I’m just here for the conversation, because I’ve already admitted I’m out of the game financially.

Here is the BS that I’m talking about. On a Triton XP 20, it comes with a Fortrex ($1,500) on the “base” series. Go to the options and Lowrance ghost (24v) will cost you an additional $2500. Now the ghost is $3500 to begin with (retail) but Triton is basically charging you $4k. Ironically, the 36v ghost, which is the EXACT same TM will not cost you an additional $200 over the 24v.

Try to explain it better. The ghost cost $2,000 more than the fortrex at retailer TW, Triton is charging $2,500 more though and for the 36v they are charging $2700 more, even though they are the exact same trolling motor.

I feel as if they would sell a bare bones boat and see if things pick up again.


Exact same models, just press a button to change the voltage, but it’s an “up charge”. bang Ridiculous

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That's extra money. It's like the home insurance discussion we had in ot. They know they are gonna put a roof on your house sooner or later. They make money on the content coverage, the out building portion, the hotel room coverage for a year etc. Because most never use that. On these boats they make 500 here, 1000 there, etc etc it helps the margin. I'm sure there are guys who don't mind paying it. I have changed out so many trolling motors, so many graphs over the years it doesn't bother me. Only thing that makes me mad is when a manufacturer is so stupid they build a boat like you are never gonna change anything out and you end up picking fiberglass out of arm for a week. Most of the stuff is plug and play anyway. It's not rocket science for sure.

Let me add it's kinda like my business. If you only order the special and drink water I won't be buying any more boats either. I really need you to order fried pickles and 2 3 dollar sodas lol.

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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: wabash2015] #15103455 06/16/24 05:22 PM
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Aren't they selling one (working @ 24V) that has two TM battery trays and two batteries and selling the other (working @ 36V) with three TM battery trays & three batteries? Just a thought....

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: WAWI] #15103486 06/16/24 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
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80K to 100K boat prices are not sustainable.


The same was said when boat prices hit $40K, $50K, $60K, $70K, $80K and $90K. And they have been and are sustainable because there are a lot of people in this country who make way more than enough to purchase a $100K pleasure item that they enjoy owning. Inflation is a butt kicking, but the economy for those that have it figured out is not really "bad". If you knew a little about the market and have been in it for the past 10 years or so then you've done very well. A lot of Gen-X'ers have also taken chances and rolled the dice on crypto a few years back and some have done really well in that market as well. There is a lot of money making a lot of money in this country.

For those that have never had those types of budgets for toys, yes $100K boats are not sustainable nor affordable. But, there are opportunities to purchase very nice used boats that are a lot more affordable.


I think the big difference this time is 400k starter houses at 7 percent. It looks like tournament participation is down and that crew drives the boat sales market. It will be interesting to watch and see what happens. With alot of the blue collar finance the boat for 10 year guys getting pushed out can the suppliers survive as the bass boat becomes a true luxury item.

Bass boats being $100k at 3-5% interest are MUCH different than the current rates today. Much like mortgages, most people were buying these things on credit, which can be a smart(er) financial decision when rates are low. With rates being "high" (read: within the historical averages), its become a joke.

If we ever have tighter financial conditions in which banks stop giving out loans on these things to people with less than stellar credit, then the bass boat market is seriously screwed for some manufacturers.

I do agree that the electronics have gotten out of hand for the vast majority of anglers. I have power poles. I literally only use them during the spawn and during unloading/loading the boat. I have two graphs and don't really see a need for any more than that.

If the manufacturers could figure out how to make an 18.5 footer with a 150HP two 9 inch graphs with spotlock for under $30k I imagine it would sell like hot cakes. At these current boat prices, I plan on repowering my 2003 Skeeter with a new 150 SHO.

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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: wabash2015] #15103498 06/16/24 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wabash2015


If the manufacturers could figure out how to make an 18.5 footer with a 150HP two 9 inch graphs with spotlock for under $30k I imagine it would sell like hot cakes. At these current boat prices, I plan on repowering my 2003 Skeeter with a new 150 SHO.


If they really wanted to "grow the sport" ^^^THIS^^^ but theres no profit margin in it for the manufacturers so it will never happen, they want you to buy big 20-21 footers or junk bass tracker type boats and will keep feeding us that's what you need to be in, not he 18 or 19 foot glass boats.

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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: Flippin-Out] #15103518 06/16/24 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Flippin-Out
Aren't they selling one (working @ 24V) that has two TM battery trays and two batteries and selling the other (working @ 36V) with three TM battery trays & three batteries? Just a thought....




Ok, that could be a valid point if this includes the battery and tray. Thank you for pointing that out.

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: grout-scout] #15103627 06/16/24 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Ok I’m just here for the conversation, because I’ve already admitted I’m out of the game financially.

Here is the BS that I’m talking about. On a Triton XP 20, it comes with a Fortrex ($1,500) on the “base” series. Go to the options and Lowrance ghost (24v) will cost you an additional $2500. Now the ghost is $3500 to begin with (retail) but Triton is basically charging you $4k. Ironically, the 36v ghost, which is the EXACT same TM will not cost you an additional $200 over the 24v.

Try to explain it better. The ghost cost $2,000 more than the fortrex at retailer TW, Triton is charging $2,500 more though and for the 36v they are charging $2700 more, even though they are the exact same trolling motor.

I feel as if they would sell a bare bones boat and see if things pick up again.


Exact same models, just press a button to change the voltage, but it’s an “up charge”. bang Ridiculous

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Price difference between the 24v and 36v is because of a 3rd battery. You're also paying for labor. fortrex is just 2 wires. Rest of them have compass and networking.

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: wabash2015] #15103691 06/16/24 11:49 PM
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Out of reach. For new boats and 90% + of folks.
At least those that can pay cash. Anyone can make payments on a rapidly depreciating’asset’. For awhile.


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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: wabash2015] #15103692 06/16/24 11:51 PM
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Sold mine in a week and found a replacement, but it takes cash! No way on these interest rates!

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: wabash2015] #15103713 06/17/24 01:10 AM
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It’s getting out of hand. There will be a boat market crash.

Or start selling them at more affordable price without the [censored].

Or do like every company who doesn’t care about their people and start laying them off.

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Well I just saw where Randy B. lost his boat sponsorship and is planning on getting a 17ft boat with a 150 on it, and im sure it will not have FFS on it. LOL

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: cephusjoe] #15103755 06/17/24 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cephusjoe
It’s getting out of hand. There will be a boat market crash.


People have been saying that on TFF since the market recovered after 2008 crash. ITS... NOT... GOING... TO... HAPPEN

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: wabash2015] #15103758 06/17/24 02:51 AM
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Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: ezbassin] #15103762 06/17/24 03:02 AM
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Well I just saw where Randy B. lost his boat sponsorship and is planning on getting a 17ft boat with a 150 on it, and im sure it will not have FFS on it. LOL


Boat werks went under. He used a demo through them recently.

He fished a BFL out of a loaned 80-90s era Ranger, looked like a 18’ with a 150.

I believe Milliken had the same thing happen to him, earlier for some reason, with his caymas
He had last year.

Re: Where Is Bass Boat Market Headed? [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15103764 06/17/24 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
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It’s getting out of hand. There will be a boat market crash.


People have been saying that on TFF since the market recovered after 2008 crash. ITS... NOT... GOING... TO... HAPPEN

Yep, they might not sell as many as they did a couple years ago but the prices aren’t coming down. Just like that $10 Big Mac meal ain’t going back to $7 which is just like when it went to $7 from $5 after 2008. Never let a crisis go to waste!

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