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Re: Any A/C guys on here
[Re: Minner Bucket]
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03/31/24 02:48 AM
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Dave-0
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100% agree with Lakhota. Haven't been in the maintenance business in a couple years now, so the phasing out of 410A is new to me.
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Re: Any A/C guys on here
[Re: POPPA]
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03/31/24 02:57 PM
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Baylor_Guy�
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There are only two plenums on a system a return and supply then the ductwork is attached to the plenum. More than likely it’s not mold and if it is it’s not BLACK mold it’s just mold that is black there is a big difference.
A lot of the time when the system is changed out the plenums are changed as the dimensions are not the same between the old and new system (unit) other times a transition will be made.
As was stated already 410A is starting to be phased out and the EPA wants production of it to be cut by 60% this year which is going to drive the cost of that refrigerant up. There appears to be three different refrigerant used to replace it instead of one like the last time. All of these to my knowledge are going to have a propane base to them. Also as was already stated COVID and the COVID excuse has caused issues in the industry and then all of the changes that the EPA wants to do is driving cost up. All of this cost is being passed on to the consumer. i agree. most all mold is black. this guy is yanking yur chain on the 8k replacement of plenums. 15k is alittle high but mite be normal in your area and situation The gov has stuck their nose in the HVAC business. I just had mine redone. I had my evaporator coil and compressor and dryer etc done. Was all 15 years old and the evap was leaking. They said if I went with replacing the whole unit that new gov regs requires that you have to flow alot more air than before so you would need to replace everything with a unit nearly twice as big. FJB. So, I just had them replace all the wear item parts. you can have any unit you want installed in your home. gov regs only come into play on rebates and energy star. Unfortunately the EPA has banned the sale and installation of any unit less than 16 SEERS, in fact they have even changed how they’ve rated them and how it’s factored and now even calling it SEER2. They are offering rebates to “help out” but it’s more so to keep everyone from ![soap soap](/forums/images/graemlins/default/soapbox.gif) about it. So if you go with any reputable company that buys their equip from an actual supply store it will be at least 16 SEER2. Unfortunately about 15k for a new system within these new regs is about the median price these days. Of course you can go with a chuck in the truck that’ll put in anything you want and used and won’t pull a permit, but you’ll get what you pay for. I’ve seen a 60% increase in cost just from last year and there was at least 6 increases in 2023 which was absurd. It’s every manufacturer. So yeah FJB. In Minners case he has an extended plenum unlike a traditional one, so it goes the length of the duct work and has home runs coming off it, but I agree no where near 8k worth of work. It sucks that some of these companies are getting away with highway robbery but people pay for it and everyone sees that and charges accordingly.
Last edited by Baylor_Guy�; 03/31/24 02:59 PM.
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Re: Any A/C guys on here
[Re: Minner Bucket]
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03/31/24 03:06 PM
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Flyfisherman
Mama's Boy
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Mama's Boy
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Waiting on Hop to come in and explain how to fix an entire HVAC system on the cheap.
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Re: Any A/C guys on here
[Re: Minner Bucket]
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03/31/24 03:18 PM
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leethefishking
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You can build the plenum and trunk line yourself. It’s just duct board, tape and pookie. I built mine off of a drawing my buddy laid out. Yours would be easier because you just need to re create what you already have. My buddy does changes outs in SA. I will check his availability and PM you his number.
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