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 Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: Harleydude]
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03/03/24 10:43 PM
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grandbassslayer
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I think the best rule change would be allow anyone to choose to use FFS for a 10% weight reduction. Anglers would have to choose at the end of practice. Would make for a really interesting strategic choice and BASS could do half of their live coverage on scopers and half on non-scopers. FFS is such a superior way of catching fish that it shouldn't matter - the 10% won't be enough to deter too many - but at least we'd see some coverage of guys intentionally choosing to forego it. You wasted your first post on that? No way that happens. I was thinking the same thing.😆
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: basscaster46]
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03/03/24 10:45 PM
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Mark Perry
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Bass is saying record viewership, it’s not going anywhere I find that hard to believe. Why is it hard to believe?
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: WAWI]
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03/03/24 10:48 PM
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slim 285
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The crowd that hates it is getting old. Lubys went out of business catering to the olds. The young people who are the future want it and they will get it. Nobody cares if old people watch or not. They are not a significant spend in the market place going forward. I would almost bet that over 50 percent of new boats and ffs units are sold to fat old men over 50 .
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: FiveBitesFishing]
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03/03/24 10:48 PM
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I think the best rule change would be allow anyone to choose to use FFS for a 10% weight reduction. Anglers would have to choose at the end of practice. Would make for a really interesting strategic choice and BASS could do half of their live coverage on scopers and half on non-scopers. FFS is such a superior way of catching fish that it shouldn't matter - the 10% won't be enough to deter too many - but at least we'd see some coverage of guys intentionally choosing to forego it. Interesting idea there. In sportscar racing call it BOP, balance of power to even the field after each event, so this is not unheard of. Maybe set a par weight for each venue right before the tournament, for those not using FFS they get a handicap.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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03/03/24 10:50 PM
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Mark Perry
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Taking away a percentage of weight or giving a handicap seems gimmicky.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: slim 285]
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03/03/24 10:50 PM
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grandbassslayer
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The crowd that hates it is getting old. Lubys went out of business catering to the olds. The young people who are the future want it and they will get it. Nobody cares if old people watch or not. They are not a significant spend in the market place going forward. I would almost bet that over 50 percent of new boats and ffs units are sold to fat old men over 50 . Well if they are buying FFS units like you say then it ain’t going anywhere.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: FiveBitesFishing]
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03/03/24 10:55 PM
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tmd11111
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I think the best rule change would be allow anyone to choose to use FFS for a 10% weight reduction. Anglers would have to choose at the end of practice. Would make for a really interesting strategic choice and BASS could do half of their live coverage on scopers and half on non-scopers. FFS is such a superior way of catching fish that it shouldn't matter - the 10% won't be enough to deter too many - but at least we'd see some coverage of guys intentionally choosing to forego it. Is your other screen name nfhbass
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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03/03/24 10:58 PM
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Mark Perry
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The crowd that hates it is getting old. Lubys went out of business catering to the olds. The young people who are the future want it and they will get it. Nobody cares if old people watch or not. They are not a significant spend in the market place going forward. I would almost bet that over 50 percent of new boats and ffs units are sold to fat old men over 50 . Well if they are buying FFS units like you say then it ain’t going anywhere. It ain't going anywhere but I honestly expect some limitations at the pro level.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: slim 285]
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03/03/24 11:10 PM
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Harleydude
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The crowd that hates it is getting old. Lubys went out of business catering to the olds. The young people who are the future want it and they will get it. Nobody cares if old people watch or not. They are not a significant spend in the market place going forward. I would almost bet that over 50 percent of new boats and ffs units are sold to fat old men over 50 . That’s 100% of the 100K and over bass boats with FFS.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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03/03/24 11:29 PM
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Fishspanker
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Only a few on the Elite Series will not have a big investment in electronics with FFS running the cost of that investment up.
When 95% have it, there will be the same number of winners. The winners are the best at what works today. Many will not get ROI. They will either figure it out enough to raise them as a competitive threat or they won’t.
It’s not magic. There is an art to begin the best in the world at it. It takes a ridiculous amount of TOW to perfect it.
The Elite Series is more competitive than ever. There was a period where they didn’t cull anglers. You had quite a few that were perennial bottom 25% in AOY. They were the guys you would want there if you used the “recruit someone you can beat” strategy. The guys doing the consistent winning weren’t concerned about these bottom dwellers. Sure one would pop up once in a blue moon with a win or maybe a top 5. If you had all the anglers list their top 15 hammers on the tour the lists would be remarkably similar.
The road in is now tougher than ever. That’s just raising the level of competition.
The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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03/04/24 12:03 AM
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Dale Gribble
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No rule changes need for a non problem
For every one person that says it sucks to watch there is 100 that enjoyed the heck out of this 4 day insane show.
That crowd has no argument after that beat down
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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03/04/24 12:33 AM
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Chris B
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Why weren't these few olds crying after the smallmouth tournaments last year?
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: Chris B]
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03/04/24 12:34 AM
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grandbassslayer
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Why weren't these few olds crying after the smallmouth tournaments last year? They are mad cause they didn’t get to rip the lips off fish from 10’ away on the bank.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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03/04/24 12:42 AM
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grout-scout
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I think the best rule change would be allow anyone to choose to use FFS for a 10% weight reduction. Anglers would have to choose at the end of practice. Would make for a really interesting strategic choice and BASS could do half of their live coverage on scopers and half on non-scopers. FFS is such a superior way of catching fish that it shouldn't matter - the 10% won't be enough to deter too many - but at least we'd see some coverage of guys intentionally choosing to forego it. You wasted your first post on that? No way that happens. I was thinking the same thing.😆 I think our buddy just returned from “central Minnesota”.
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Re: FFS rule changes for 2025
[Re: tmd11111]
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03/04/24 12:43 AM
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grout-scout
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I think the best rule change would be allow anyone to choose to use FFS for a 10% weight reduction. Anglers would have to choose at the end of practice. Would make for a really interesting strategic choice and BASS could do half of their live coverage on scopers and half on non-scopers. FFS is such a superior way of catching fish that it shouldn't matter - the 10% won't be enough to deter too many - but at least we'd see some coverage of guys intentionally choosing to forego it. Is your other screen name nfhbass Beat me to it! 
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