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 Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: Bass Buster1]
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02/24/24 01:59 PM
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Barrett
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HS fishing is not a UIL sport. It is the same model for HS shotgun shooting teams. A 501C3 company is started and they use something really fun like shooting and fishing to draw a crowd, they go and introduce the club to the schools and they take off. They write bylaws and such usually requiring a school to "sponsor" the team. School sponsorship usually means a teacher volunteers to get involved, the school provides a place to meet, and the kids wear the name of the school other than that it is not a school sport. People do profit, the owner of the 501C3 can pay themselves and other employees a salary. I do not know how the Texas high school fishing one is run but the shotgun one was run this way and there were several who worked hard but were paid very nice salaries. The money to pay those salaries comes through grants from corporations like Midway USA and dues paid by individual shooters. Coaches were all trained volunteers, mostly parents, just like the boat captains, the only ones paid were hired employees of the 501C3. Prizes are usually donated product or cash from cooperate donations. Donating corporations are on board because they get to write off their donations to a 501C3 and then they are getting future customers interested in the sport.
The great is it is fun for kids that may not be good at other sports and a good way for kids and parents or other mentors to spend time outside together.
The bad is it is very popular, often unorganized because of the volunteer nature of the organizations, and ripe for safety and cheating/ethics issues.
After captaining a couple of times as a favor to a friend, I will fish elsewhere if I know there is a HS tournament scheduled on the lake, it is a zoo... Thanks for explaining to the board how a 501C3 works for those that dont understand. Everybody I know that owns one has it for tax purposes and/or profits. It's funny how many people think just because it's a non profit and is filed as a 501c3 (the filings are online to find with a very easy search) that it means nobody is profiting. It just generally means you dont pay income tax.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: Barrett]
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02/24/24 06:24 PM
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Txduckhunter
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Board- if you read my post I did not say that no one is making any money. I did say a few people are making a little money, but not much. Instead of calling someone who knows where pretty much every dollar is spent clueless why don’t you just look at the public postings from THSBA that account for every dollar brought in and every dollar spent. It is all available to y’all. However, some of y’all would rather assume things instead of looking it up and seeing the facts. I guess based on your statement you have no idea what the operations costs are. Do you have any idea what insurance costs are to run the operation? Do you have any idea what weigh in trailers or live release tanks costs? There are many many more large expenses that many on the outside are not aware of. The accounting is all available and if a person cared to educate themselves by looking up and reading the facts they would not then make false accusations.
Surely your smart enough to figure out what it means when a person used three capital letters to identify themselves. At least you admitted “a few” people are making money. Goodness that made my head hurt. We will see how many calls Dannie Golden gets this week at Roberts during the no info period. I’m putting the over under at 4….. TFF place your bets!! No bet Barrett. It happens and it happens a lot more than most would think. Same with "buying" captains for events and/or having family members fishing the week of and sharing waypoints and bait selection. It gets worse every year despite some being caught and given the ax. Some parents will do anything to give little Johnny an edge.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/24/24 11:04 PM
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Used2fish
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You can look up thsba online since they’re non profit.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: Used2fish]
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02/24/24 11:38 PM
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RCarter
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You can look up thsba online since they’re non profit. I posted the link earlier in this post fyi.....Page 10
Last edited by RCarter; 02/24/24 11:39 PM.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/25/24 12:18 AM
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/25/24 12:23 AM
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bloo_rainger
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It looks like there is a high school event with a rumored 450 boats on Toledo this Saturday 2/24.
Can some explain why they think it’s good to overlap with a BASS elite event? Tell me you’ve never been on TB without telling me you’ve never been on TB.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/25/24 12:26 AM
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tmd11111
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Oh ghee, both tourneys fished today and no drama.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: tmd11111]
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02/25/24 12:33 AM
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Oh ghee, both tourneys fished today and no drama. And the troll that started this thread is gone as well..... 
Last edited by RCarter; 02/25/24 12:38 AM.
WORK HARD.....FISH HARDER!
GOD is Great...BEER is Good...and PEOPLE are CrAZy
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/25/24 03:05 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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The one thing I can tell you about the sport of high school bass fishing that I've seen so far is boat captains are enforcing the safety rules. I do that myself. Even if we are just going to idle over to another spot or are using the sonar to look at some spots everybody in my boat has on a PFD and it is properly worn and my kill switch is hooked up. I've been around this sport since the mid 80's and I've personally experienced things that could have killed me if I hadn't been using my gear correctly.
For you guys that want to either not wear PFD's or just get them out just in case but not put them on I want you to try something this summer. Come to the lake dressed to get wet and some time during the day find a spot where the water isn't over your head but deep enough to submerge most of your body and jump in minus a PFD, have your fishing buddy throw you one and you try to put it on, you'll struggle with it until you physically give out and never get it on. How do I know this? I've tried it after watching a guy demonstrate it on a fishing show..
I started out not wearing a kill switch but after having a tournament director chew my butt out for not even having one I fixed it and started wearing. Experiences later taught me to keep it hooked up if the big motor was running. It's not just what you'll get yourself into but but what others will do around you as well that a kill switch can save your life.
Last edited by ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50); 02/25/24 03:06 PM.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/25/24 04:07 PM
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grout-scout
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So was anyone there and were there 450 HS boats?
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: grout-scout]
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02/25/24 04:10 PM
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Walls
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So was anyone there and were there 450 HS boats? There was never going to be 450 HS boats. Just took 12 pages for everyone to figure it out.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: Walls]
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02/25/24 04:17 PM
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RCarter
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So was anyone there and were there 450 HS boats? There was never going to be 450 HS boats. Just took 12 pages for everyone to figure it out. Correct.....long gone Minnesota ice-hole just wanting to trash talk...
WORK HARD.....FISH HARDER!
GOD is Great...BEER is Good...and PEOPLE are CrAZy
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: grout-scout]
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02/25/24 04:19 PM
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T-Slab
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So was anyone there and were there 450 HS boats? Not even close to that many. Wasn’t crowded at all really, even with the elites there.
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/25/24 04:31 PM
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grout-scout
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Re: HS kids on Toledo
[Re: RCarter]
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02/25/24 04:36 PM
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