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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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The emissions systems suck, egr is terrible, especially when you find out that they sacrifice mileage and cleanliness of the tune to make it sound quieter. I’d wager a. AST majority want more noise all want better mileage and less soot.
My ecodiesel is still rolling at just shy of 150,000 miles. My brother brought home a 2024 3500 duramax yesterday, I told him to get a Cummins but that’s what he wanted. See how it goes his last duramax was a good truck, but pre dpf def etc. After going Ford, I don't think I'd go back to a Ram or Chevy 3/4 ton. The biggest local diesel shop says he keeps 6.7 Cummins cylinder heads in stock because they go through so many. I do think Chevy is a good truck, but the new ones are near impossible to delete. Made in America though like the Ford (unlike the Ram 2500 & 3500). But there's a reason the Cummins is #1 among commercial towing folks. My 2019 duramax had so many issues the last 2 months I owned it. I never should have bought an oil-field lease. Glad to be out of that mess. This powerstroke was immactulately maintained and runs like it - got 25 on the trip-meter since deleting last week.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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04/16/23 04:07 AM
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The emissions systems suck, egr is terrible, especially when you find out that they sacrifice mileage and cleanliness of the tune to make it sound quieter. I’d wager a. AST majority want more noise all want better mileage and less soot.
My ecodiesel is still rolling at just shy of 150,000 miles. My brother brought home a 2024 3500 duramax yesterday, I told him to get a Cummins but that’s what he wanted. See how it goes his last duramax was a good truck, but pre dpf def etc. After going Ford, I don't think I'd go back to a Ram or Chevy 3/4 ton. The biggest local diesel shop says he keeps 6.7 Cummins cylinder heads in stock because they go through so many. I do think Chevy is a good truck, but the new ones are near impossible to delete. Made in America though like the Ford (unlike the Ram 2500 & 3500). But there's a reason the Cummins is #1 among commercial towing folks. My 2019 duramax had so many issues the last 2 months I owned it. I never should have bought an oil-field lease. Glad to be out of that mess. This powerstroke was immactulately maintained and runs like it - got 25 on the trip-meter since deleting last week. No offense but I’ll stick around for your review of the Ford with miles of experience. You said the same you’re saying now about your duramax. If your mechanic claims massive issues with the Cummins I’d find a different one.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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04/17/23 04:04 AM
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The emissions systems suck, egr is terrible, especially when you find out that they sacrifice mileage and cleanliness of the tune to make it sound quieter. I’d wager a. AST majority want more noise all want better mileage and less soot.
My ecodiesel is still rolling at just shy of 150,000 miles. My brother brought home a 2024 3500 duramax yesterday, I told him to get a Cummins but that’s what he wanted. See how it goes his last duramax was a good truck, but pre dpf def etc. After going Ford, I don't think I'd go back to a Ram or Chevy 3/4 ton. The biggest local diesel shop says he keeps 6.7 Cummins cylinder heads in stock because they go through so many. I do think Chevy is a good truck, but the new ones are near impossible to delete. Made in America though like the Ford (unlike the Ram 2500 & 3500). But there's a reason the Cummins is #1 among commercial towing folks. My 2019 duramax had so many issues the last 2 months I owned it. I never should have bought an oil-field lease. Glad to be out of that mess. This powerstroke was immactulately maintained and runs like it - got 25 on the trip-meter since deleting last week. No offense but I’ll stick around for your review of the Ford with miles of experience. You said the same you’re saying now about your duramax. If your mechanic claims massive issues with the Cummins I’d find a different one. I think my problem with the Duramax was getting an oilfield lease. I do think Chevy builds a good truck, but their newer ones are so dang uncomfortable. That said, I think Ford builds a good truck these days too. But I do hate that they use the CP4, the Ram is definitely more comfortable, and the Ram doesn't have the death wobble. But the dang 68RFE is so hard to wrap my head around as a serious HD transmission. You may end up being right about the Ford. But I needed to get rid of that Chevy and wanted something different. At least the Ford was cheap to delete.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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04/17/23 03:25 PM
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If you get a HO Cummins or the 1ton you at least get the aisin (sp) transmission, but agree they could def up their game in that department.
While I think the duramax is alright, the un-tunability of them is of putting.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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04/24/23 11:20 AM
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If you get a HO Cummins or the 1ton you at least get the aisin (sp) transmission, but agree they could def up their game in that department.
While I think the duramax is alright, the un-tunability of them is of putting. Agreed...if all 3 trucks could be tuned equally easily, I think the duramax probably wins out pretty easily. Especially the duramax with the old 6-speed allison Aisin is the only way to go with Ram IMHO. Was even told this by a Ram dealer...
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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05/04/23 08:13 PM
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If you get a HO Cummins or the 1ton you at least get the aisin (sp) transmission, but agree they could def up their game in that department.
While I think the duramax is alright, the un-tunability of them is of putting. Agreed...if all 3 trucks could be tuned equally easily, I think the duramax probably wins out pretty easily. Especially the duramax with the old 6-speed allison Aisin is the only way to go with Ram IMHO. Was even told this by a Ram dealer... I wouldn't disagree about the Aisin, but it only comes in a 3500.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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05/09/23 02:51 AM
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If you get a HO Cummins or the 1ton you at least get the aisin (sp) transmission, but agree they could def up their game in that department.
While I think the duramax is alright, the un-tunability of them is of putting. Agreed...if all 3 trucks could be tuned equally easily, I think the duramax probably wins out pretty easily. Especially the duramax with the old 6-speed allison Aisin is the only way to go with Ram IMHO. Was even told this by a Ram dealer... I wouldn't disagree about the Aisin, but it only comes in a 3500. Yeah...the 68RFE is just so questionable. It doesn't even really shift smoothly and you seldom hear of any high-mileage ones. I had a deal lined up on a Laramie Mega cab for cheap a couple years ago and went to drive it and it just drove awful. Went and test drove another low mileage one a week later thinking the first one was just a bad truck and it drove the same. Kind of gave up on Ram HDs after that. I think most folks that buy one are buying them for one of their fleet drivers to drive and they don't really care as long as it runs. Both my duramax and powerstroke shifted smoother and drove nicer from a handling and ride quality standpoint. The other problem with the aisin (other than only being in the 3500) is that the maintenance on them is significant. The allison in the GM and torqshift-6 and torqshift-10 in the fords both have way less trans maintenance. I think the allison maintenance starts at 100k if I recall. My f-250 torqshift starts at 150k. Aisin starts at 30k
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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05/09/23 12:21 PM
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The good about the 68RFE is the aftermarket. Have a couple family members who tuned their trucks and busted the trans. Had them rebuilt by a shop that knows what’s up and they have been solid since for many miles.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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05/10/23 07:53 PM
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The good about the 68RFE is the aftermarket. Have a couple family members who tuned their trucks and busted the trans. Had them rebuilt by a shop that knows what’s up and they have been solid since for many miles. Yeah you can basically bullitproof the 68RFE on rebuild for not a lot of money.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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02/19/24 03:33 PM
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I had one for 70k miles and never missed a beat. Only got rid of it because it was 2WD and I got stuck a couple times on vacations
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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02/19/24 10:50 PM
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The gen 3 ecodiesel has been extremely reliable, gen 3 is new body style 2019+.
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Re: Ram 1500 ecodiesel
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02/20/24 05:08 PM
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Gen 3 they seemed to have fixed a bunch of problems, I was referring to the 2014-2018 motors, rumor is they are popping like Evinrude Ficht's, here a guy opens one up to see the common problem https://youtu.be/qvA3XKE9eWE?si=28To22ncJhMiXxji&t=1613
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