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Re: TFF Lawn Care Thread [Re: Derek ๐Ÿ] #14820885 08/23/23 09:57 PM
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Meant to post this last night. 12 days ago I may or may not had a few beers. Noticed the laws was getting a little thick and shaggy so decided to show it who's the boss is. Day one and day 12 yesterday. Don't be scared to fafo little. At least on bermuda.

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I noticed some yellowing areas close to my sidewalk and dug around early AM and appears I have chinch bugs. Very surprised since I use a company to handle the insect issues. For now just bought a bag of Triazide and will put this out today and water it in. Is there anything else I should do?

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Originally Posted by Hard Rain
I noticed some yellowing areas close to my sidewalk and dug around early AM and appears I have chinch bugs. Very surprised since I use a company to handle the insect issues. For now just bought a bag of Triazide and will put this out today and water it in. Is there anything else I should do?

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Originally Posted by Hard Rain
I noticed some yellowing areas close to my sidewalk and dug around early AM and appears I have chinch bugs. Very surprised since I use a company to handle the insect issues. For now just bought a bag of Triazide and will put this out today and water it in. Is there anything else I should do?


The granular will probably work since you watered it in well. Having a hose end bifen on hand would be good to have.

https://www.fertilome.com/product/bug-blaster-bifenthrin-24-rts-32-oz


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Re: TFF Lawn Care Thread [Re: Derek ๐Ÿ] #14825317 08/28/23 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek ๐Ÿ
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I noticed some yellowing areas close to my sidewalk and dug around early AM and appears I have chinch bugs. Very surprised since I use a company to handle the insect issues. For now just bought a bag of Triazide and will put this out today and water it in. Is there anything else I should do?


The granular will probably work since you watered it in well. Having a hose end bifen on hand would be good to have.

https://www.fertilome.com/product/bug-blaster-bifenthrin-24-rts-32-oz


I was planning to fertilize about now but do you think that is a good idea with the damage from the chinch bugs?

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Proceed as normal. Fert will help insect damage recover.


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Re: TFF Lawn Care Thread [Re: Derek ๐Ÿ] #14826019 08/29/23 02:35 PM
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Derek,

Are you familiar with and/or used Headway G granular fungicide?

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Yeah no issue it with. It's Azoxy(Scotts disease ex) and Prop mixed together. Good fall fungicide. Look at Strobe Pro G. Same thing and you can probably find it about $10 a bag cheaper.


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Originally Posted by Derek ๐Ÿ
Proceed as normal. Fert will help insect damage recover.


Derek since I am dealing with a stressed lawn should I go with a balanced fert or you think the Scotts Max I already have will be okay? I actually had a lawn service I use at times come and treat for chinch bugs they also did an iron app at the same time in the mix. Reason for that is I found more chinch bugs a few days AFTER using Spectracide Triazide...not real impressed with that product. The chemical you mentioned above Bifenthrin is one they used but they also had another one in the mix can't remember the name. They did the app for $58 not too bad. This is company I had do my work landscape before I retired I generally just use them for insect apps. The tech said I might want to scale back the nitrogen for now and use balanced so I want your opinion. If it matters last time it was fertilized was in July and it was balanced. He said if I use the Scotts Max just use the lighter setting.

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The other ingredient they might have used was Dylox. Nice they added some Iron to the mix. They will give you a nice green pop in a day or two since it was a foliar application. I'm a big fan of balanced fertilizers. Your classic 13-13-13 or even a 3-1-2 like a 15-5-10. There is a case to be made of using a higher N product like the Greenmax. Specially if you're not bagging your clippings and returning those nutrients back. Going into fall/winter. l I would like to get some potassium (the last number on the bag) into the leaf and that's where your balance fert comes in. I don't do label directions on fert, I calculate and measure my own. St. Aug I would like to go out with a 1/4lb of NPK. So you grab a bag of T13 and that would be 2lbs of product per 1000sq feet. Scotts Greenmax would be 1lbs per 1000. You could go with your spring and fall apps with a balanced and go with the Scotts for your summer apps. If you are bagging your clippings then you need to stick with a balanced. Here is a good T13 that Lowes started carrying. It's Ammonium Sulfate based N which is what you want. I think the Scotts is mostly AMS based N too.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sta-Green/...GLZXyH4IOYaAmT2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


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Originally Posted by Derek ๐Ÿ
The other ingredient they might have used was Dylox. Nice they added some Iron to the mix. They will give you a nice green pop in a day or two since it was a foliar application. I'm a big fan of balanced fertilizers. Your classic 13-13-13 or even a 3-1-2 like a 15-5-10. There is a case to be made of using a higher N product like the Greenmax. Specially if you're not bagging your clippings and returning those nutrients back. Going into fall/winter. l I would like to get some potassium (the last number on the bag) into the leaf and that's where your balance fert comes in. I don't do label directions on fert, I calculate and measure my own. St. Aug I would like to go out with a 1/4lb of NPK. So you grab a bag of T13 and that would be 2lbs of product per 1000sq feet. Scotts Greenmax would be 1lbs per 1000. You could go with your spring and fall apps with a balanced and go with the Scotts for your summer apps. If you are bagging your clippings then you need to stick with a balanced. Here is a good T13 that Lowes started carrying. It's Ammonium Sulfate based N which is what you want. I think the Scotts is mostly AMS based N too.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sta-Green/...GLZXyH4IOYaAmT2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


I still have the Loweโ€™s receipt for the Scotts Max so will just return and swap it for the Sta-Green. I see it has sulphur but assume not enough to be an issue considering I already applied the Martin sulphur. One more question this is related to sprinkler settings. I started doing the split times on each zone going thru the zones for 5 minutes on Prog A then longer on Prog B. The tech I talked to today says this is backwards should have the longer zones first then just 5 minutes on the second pass to top if off. That seems odd to me what do you think?

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Don't worry about the Sulphur listed on the bag. Fert doesn't go bad unless stored improperly, so save the Greenmax and use it as needed. It's a good product. Irrigation wise I'm not a fan of your setup of 5 minutes here or 10 minutes a zone. Get some catch cups and run each zone for 20 minutes. Note how long with that it takes to lay down 1/2" If you run a zone for 20 minutes and you get 1/2" you're good. If you run it for 20 minutes and you get 1/8" then you know you need to run that zone for 40 minutes to get 1/2". Every sprinkler type, zone, water pressure is different. Thats why you do a irrigation "audit".If you have irrigation and dialing it in is huge. If I know how long it takes to put down 1/2" of irrigation I''m golden.

If you want to "prime" your soil and run irrigation for a shorter time then come back on top of that the same morning with the residual amount I have no issue with that. I'm pretty heavy clay and can lay down a 1/2" at once without much issue.


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Originally Posted by Derek ๐Ÿ
Don't worry about the Sulphur listed on the bag. Fert doesn't go bad unless stored improperly, so save the Greenmax and use it as needed. It's a good product. Irrigation wise I'm not a fan of your setup of 5 minutes here or 10 minutes a zone. Get some catch cups and run each zone for 20 minutes. Note how long with that it takes to lay down 1/2" If you run a zone for 20 minutes and you get 1/2" you're good. If you run it for 20 minutes and you get 1/8" then you know you need to run that zone for 40 minutes to get 1/2". Every sprinkler type, zone, water pressure is different. Thats why you do a irrigation "audit".If you have irrigation and dialing it in is huge. If I know how long it takes to put down 1/2" of irrigation I''m golden.

If you want to "prime" your soil and run irrigation for a shorter time then come back on top of that the same morning with the residual amount I have no issue with that. I'm pretty heavy clay and can lay down a 1/2" at once without much issue.


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Thanks for the help Derek I will keep the Scotts Max and pick up something else today to use for now. I will also order a pack of those cups and see how mine is doing.

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Iโ€™ll typically use the cups 2-3 times a season to check. My irrigation runs from abut 4am-6:30 so I donโ€™t see it run. About ever 4 weeks or so Iโ€™ll start it on a Saturday morning at 7am so I can watch all the zones and make sure everything is working properly.


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