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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: lconn4] #14883919 11/01/23 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lconn4
I will disagree because the game isnt over until its over... you were questioning his decision to put an end to the game as soon as possible with his closer because you were thinking about the future... had he left his other pitcher in and someone knocked it out of the park, that crowd would have gone berserk and anyone he could have brought in would have been under a lot of pressure. Two runs down after home run or two, how would you like to have been called out to close things down.. what if you walked the first batter you faced..now your facing the tying run. If LeClerc lost the game at that point, he would have lost a lot of confidence for those future games. Didnt the rangers lose a game a while back in bottom of ninth after giving up 5 or 6 runs?

Fair enough, we'll just agree to disagree. They did lose a game a while back in the 9th but those runs started with 0 outs, not 2 outs.

It was a 6-run game with 2 outs. They could have gone back to back to back against Smith and still not caught up.

I think Leclerc lost some confidence anyway coming in and giving up 2 runs. 2 of their batters got to see him again. Smith couldn't finish and lost confidence. It's a loss all around with the move Bochy made.

And now Leclerc has pitched 2 straight days and if you need him to go 4/5/6 outs tomorrow, he can't...or if he needs his upper 90s top end stuff, it's not gonna be there. You're going to be forced into Chapman or someone else who isn't as good to try to get you home. Maybe it won't matter, but bringing him in with 2 outs in the 9th of a 6-run game didn't matter either except to hurt his confidence a little and take away him being fresh tomorrow. You can't say you don't manage for tomorrow, but it was 6 runs and 2 outs...the game was over.



Regardless, the big hope is that our stud 2B is back on track if he, Seager, and Carter are all smoking the ball, that's huge. Jankowski and Jung had good games. Taveras still looks lost, as do Garver and Lowe most of the time. Hopefully they pick it up tomorrow and we close it out and the only planning we have to do for the return trip home is where the parade is gonna run.


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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: Patriot Guard Rider] #14883923 11/01/23 06:59 AM
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Semien bust's out of the slump in a big way!
Jankowski steps up huge for injured Garcia!
Seager continues his run for MVP!
Jung and Heim solid contributor's in tonight's offensive onslaught.

Go Ranger's! texas

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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: T Bird] #14883944 11/01/23 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by T Bird
Semien bust's out of the slump in a big way!
Jankowski steps up huge for injured Garcia!
Seager continues his run for MVP!
Jung and Heim solid contributor's in tonight's offensive onslaught.

Go Ranger's! texas

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Did you hear the stat in the game that Reggie Jackson is the only position player with multiple WS MVPs? If Rangers win this one, I'm not sure how Seager doesn't get the MVP, which would make him and Reggie Jackson the only position players with multiple WS MVPs.


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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: patriot07] #14884007 11/01/23 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by lconn4
I will disagree because the game isnt over until its over... you were questioning his decision to put an end to the game as soon as possible with his closer because you were thinking about the future... had he left his other pitcher in and someone knocked it out of the park, that crowd would have gone berserk and anyone he could have brought in would have been under a lot of pressure. Two runs down after home run or two, how would you like to have been called out to close things down.. what if you walked the first batter you faced..now your facing the tying run. If LeClerc lost the game at that point, he would have lost a lot of confidence for those future games. Didnt the rangers lose a game a while back in bottom of ninth after giving up 5 or 6 runs?

Fair enough, we'll just agree to disagree. They did lose a game a while back in the 9th but those runs started with 0 outs, not 2 outs.

It was a 6-run game with 2 outs. They could have gone back to back to back against Smith and still not caught up.

I think Leclerc lost some confidence anyway coming in and giving up 2 runs. 2 of their batters got to see him again. Smith couldn't finish and lost confidence. It's a loss all around with the move Bochy made.

And now Leclerc has pitched 2 straight days and if you need him to go 4/5/6 outs tomorrow, he can't...or if he needs his upper 90s top end stuff, it's not gonna be there. You're going to be forced into Chapman or someone else who isn't as good to try to get you home. Maybe it won't matter, but bringing him in with 2 outs in the 9th of a 6-run game didn't matter either except to hurt his confidence a little and take away him being fresh tomorrow. You can't say you don't manage for tomorrow, but it was 6 runs and 2 outs...the game was over.



Regardless, the big hope is that our stud 2B is back on track if he, Seager, and Carter are all smoking the ball, that's huge. Jankowski and Jung had good games. Taveras still looks lost, as do Garver and Lowe most of the time. Hopefully they pick it up tomorrow and we close it out and the only planning we have to do for the return trip home is where the parade is gonna run.


Please tell me Bochy has your cell number, just in case he gets into a bind you are just a short phone call away. banana


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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: Patriot Guard Rider] #14884019 11/01/23 12:35 PM
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Taveras and Lowe both got on base and scored. Garver walked and had quality AB's in spite of the 3 K's If anyone looked "lost" last night it was Carter. For the 1st time since he was added to the postseason roster he proved he was human. I bet he doesn't go 0-4 tonight.


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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: H2O Seeker] #14884025 11/01/23 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Taveras and Lowe both got on base and scored. Garver walked and had quality AB's in spite of the 3 K's If anyone looked "lost" last night it was Carter. For the 1st time since he was added to the postseason roster he proved he was human. I bet he doesn't go 0-4 tonight.


He may have been pressing a little last night with Garcia out.


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I need 7 games for beer sales so let's go d backs

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I need 7 games for beer sales so let's go d backs


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Re: Rangers vs D-backs, Game 4 of the World Series [Re: H2O Seeker] #14884031 11/01/23 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Taveras and Lowe both got on base and scored. Garver walked and had quality AB's in spite of the 3 K's If anyone looked "lost" last night it was Carter. For the 1st time since he was added to the postseason roster he proved he was human. I bet he doesn't go 0-4 tonight.

Taveras walked to score and is hitless in the entire world series. 2 hits in his last 9 games (30 ABs). And yes he walked...he also swung at ball 4 way out of the zone with the bases loaded when almost any ball in play scores a run, or just taking the pitch scores a run. Only thing he can do to not score a run is swing and miss.

Go look at Lowe's first AB and tell me he's seeing the ball fine.

Garver had 3 Ks in a game where his team scored 11 runs and the opposing pitchers were getting rocked. He's got 1 hit in 15 WS at-bats. Lowe and Taveras are one thing, but Garver is in the heart of the lineup and doesn't contribute in the field at all and has to be better.

I'm just glad Semien found his game at the perfect time. Like I said - you keep him in front of Seager and he'll continue to get pitches to hit and he'll eventually figure it out.

You're right that last night was the first time Carter has looked human since the playoffs started.

One win away...


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Originally Posted by lconn4
I will disagree because the game isnt over until its over... you were questioning his decision to put an end to the game as soon as possible with his closer because you were thinking about the future... had he left his other pitcher in and someone knocked it out of the park, that crowd would have gone berserk and anyone he could have brought in would have been under a lot of pressure. Two runs down after home run or two, how would you like to have been called out to close things down.. what if you walked the first batter you faced..now your facing the tying run. If LeClerc lost the game at that point, he would have lost a lot of confidence for those future games. Didnt the rangers lose a game a while back in bottom of ninth after giving up 5 or 6 runs?

Fair enough, we'll just agree to disagree. They did lose a game a while back in the 9th but those runs started with 0 outs, not 2 outs.

It was a 6-run game with 2 outs. They could have gone back to back to back against Smith and still not caught up.

I think Leclerc lost some confidence anyway coming in and giving up 2 runs. 2 of their batters got to see him again. Smith couldn't finish and lost confidence. It's a loss all around with the move Bochy made.

And now Leclerc has pitched 2 straight days and if you need him to go 4/5/6 outs tomorrow, he can't...or if he needs his upper 90s top end stuff, it's not gonna be there. You're going to be forced into Chapman or someone else who isn't as good to try to get you home. Maybe it won't matter, but bringing him in with 2 outs in the 9th of a 6-run game didn't matter either except to hurt his confidence a little and take away him being fresh tomorrow. You can't say you don't manage for tomorrow, but it was 6 runs and 2 outs...the game was over.



Regardless, the big hope is that our stud 2B is back on track if he, Seager, and Carter are all smoking the ball, that's huge. Jankowski and Jung had good games. Taveras still looks lost, as do Garver and Lowe most of the time. Hopefully they pick it up tomorrow and we close it out and the only planning we have to do for the return trip home is where the parade is gonna run.


Please tell me Bochy has your cell number, just in case he gets into a bind you are just a short phone call away. banana

Bochy doesn't need my number. This team is hopefully good enough to win a WS even if he makes 99% of the right calls and then makes an obvious mistake now and again. We'll find out if they win one more game. I mean the 2011 Rangers were nearly good enough to win a WS with Ron Washington at the helm and he was among the worst in-game managers in the history of baseball - I'm still not convinced he knows what a double switch is.


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Originally Posted by lconn4
I will disagree because the game isnt over until its over... you were questioning his decision to put an end to the game as soon as possible with his closer because you were thinking about the future... had he left his other pitcher in and someone knocked it out of the park, that crowd would have gone berserk and anyone he could have brought in would have been under a lot of pressure. Two runs down after home run or two, how would you like to have been called out to close things down.. what if you walked the first batter you faced..now your facing the tying run. If LeClerc lost the game at that point, he would have lost a lot of confidence for those future games. Didnt the rangers lose a game a while back in bottom of ninth after giving up 5 or 6 runs?

Fair enough, we'll just agree to disagree. They did lose a game a while back in the 9th but those runs started with 0 outs, not 2 outs.

It was a 6-run game with 2 outs. They could have gone back to back to back against Smith and still not caught up.

I think Leclerc lost some confidence anyway coming in and giving up 2 runs. 2 of their batters got to see him again. Smith couldn't finish and lost confidence. It's a loss all around with the move Bochy made.

And now Leclerc has pitched 2 straight days and if you need him to go 4/5/6 outs tomorrow, he can't...or if he needs his upper 90s top end stuff, it's not gonna be there. You're going to be forced into Chapman or someone else who isn't as good to try to get you home. Maybe it won't matter, but bringing him in with 2 outs in the 9th of a 6-run game didn't matter either except to hurt his confidence a little and take away him being fresh tomorrow. You can't say you don't manage for tomorrow, but it was 6 runs and 2 outs...the game was over.



Regardless, the big hope is that our stud 2B is back on track if he, Seager, and Carter are all smoking the ball, that's huge. Jankowski and Jung had good games. Taveras still looks lost, as do Garver and Lowe most of the time. Hopefully they pick it up tomorrow and we close it out and the only planning we have to do for the return trip home is where the parade is gonna run.


Please tell me Bochy has your cell number, just in case he gets into a bind you are just a short phone call away. banana



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