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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14843872 09/22/23 04:11 PM
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well at least the chinese have their own money when coming over here legally cant say as much about the horde of folks with nothing to offer except lower wages an higher taxes for the citizens but a lot of fishermen wont care until the govt starts giving them new bass boats an free tourney entries then it will be on.

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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14846747 09/25/23 04:10 PM
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I hope to hear this week about the team to assess damages and price. Maybe they will publish a date for the meeting.
Todd came out last Tuesday with another tirade. It was for the most part just another hashing over old material but he did say he's been asking for open records on the case and the state has not given him much, yet.

He did post this one text that Aplin sent to then commissioner Carter Smith and his replacement, David Yoksowitz back in February around the same time the Todd deal was announced.
"Carter, want to talk about feeling out some water people to see if they would like a water deal with us if we owned the water rights to lower our cost,".
Aplin was aware the water had value and this text showed it. Then he accused Todd of wanting to do the same thing.

I'll bet the state does not come up with an offer and the value will either be $200m plus, or Todd will go the civil suit route so he can get all the evidence the state is not sending him.


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Allison1] #14846806 09/25/23 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
I hope to hear this week about the team to assess damages and price. Maybe they will publish a date for the meeting.
Todd came out last Tuesday with another tirade. It was for the most part just another hashing over old material but he did say he's been asking for open records on the case and the state has not given him much, yet.

He did post this one text that Aplin sent to then commissioner Carter Smith and his replacement, David Yoksowitz back in February around the same time the Todd deal was announced.
"Carter, want to talk about feeling out some water people to see if they would like a water deal with us if we owned the water rights to lower our cost,".
Aplin was aware the water had value and this text showed it. Then he accused Todd of wanting to do the same thing.

I'll bet the state does not come up with an offer and the value will either be $200m plus, or Todd will go the civil suit route so he can get all the evidence the state is not sending him.



JMO but I think $200mm is high since he only paid $110mm. I would be a little surprised if it is much over $125mm but again JMO.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14847111 09/25/23 09:50 PM
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All I can say about this is a hell of a mess.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14847186 09/25/23 11:20 PM
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Did he paym110 mil or 95 mil?
Keep seeing different numbers


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: outfishdya] #14847200 09/25/23 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
Did he paym110 mil or 95 mil?
Keep seeing different numbers

He only paid 1 million. The Chinese paid + or - 100 million.


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14847257 09/26/23 12:37 AM
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He’s on my spot!


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14847340 09/26/23 01:51 AM
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Note: How Todd piled up all the dirt he has been moving..

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How are we coming up with these dollar figures that the state may have to pay? Out of a hat? Dart board?

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Razorback] #14847418 09/26/23 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Razorback
How are we coming up with these dollar figures that the state may have to pay? Out of a hat? Dart board?


Sure it is just a guess at this point but I cannot imagine the State trying to get away paying less than Todd paid just don’t think it will be as high as some have posted.

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Originally Posted by Razorback
How are we coming up with these dollar figures that the state may have to pay? Out of a hat? Dart board?

It is rumored that the bank had a water rights appraisal that was over 200 million. The rumor did not specify if that was a present value appraisal or if it included any value for the land.


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How are we coming up with these dollar figures that the state may have to pay? Out of a hat? Dart board?

It is rumored that the bank had a water rights appraisal that was over 200 million. The rumor did not specify if that was a present value appraisal or if it included any value for the land.


Whose rumor? I mean if the bank thought it was worth 200M they would have bid on the property. Banks tend to chase money. These type of rumors don't pass the "does it make sense" test.

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How are we coming up with these dollar figures that the state may have to pay? Out of a hat? Dart board?

It is rumored that the bank had a water rights appraisal that was over 200 million. The rumor did not specify if that was a present value appraisal or if it included any value for the land.


Whose rumor? I mean if the bank thought it was worth 200M they would have bid on the property. Banks tend to chase money. These type of rumors don't pass the "does it make sense" test.


No they would not have.

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How are we coming up with these dollar figures that the state may have to pay? Out of a hat? Dart board?

It is rumored that the bank had a water rights appraisal that was over 200 million. The rumor did not specify if that was a present value appraisal or if it included any value for the land.


Whose rumor? I mean if the bank thought it was worth 200M they would have bid on the property. Banks tend to chase money. These type of rumors don't pass the "does it make sense" test.

The following was posted on page 40 of this thread, an excerpt from an article on KXAN website

Todd told KXAN the property is likely worth much more than that, saying his bank recently appraised the value of the water rights alone at $238 million. He cautioned commissioners against using eminent domain to take over private property.


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