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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/07/23 01:30 PM
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TexDawg
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Estimates by Ukraine Armed Forces 
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: Fishin' Nut]
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09/07/23 01:36 PM
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D.O.C.989
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I haven’t seen any news outlet showing the dead bodies of Russian’s or a even a number count for that matter. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2023/09/full-3327-197175-rl.jpeg) And the billions in aid is not cash, it is war materiel. Салва Украине! What a great source for your information. 
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/07/23 01:43 PM
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Trickster
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And some of that money will funnel back to the Dem party and Biden.
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: Fishin' Nut]
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09/07/23 01:56 PM
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I haven’t seen any news outlet showing the dead bodies of Russian’s or a even a number count for that matter. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2023/09/full-3327-197175-rl.jpeg) And the billions in aid is not cash, it is war materiel. Салва Украине! BS numbers
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Re: Another billion...
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09/07/23 02:22 PM
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Before the Ukraine “war”, if you had asked most average Americans what was the most corrupt country in the world, the Ukraine would have been in their top two or three. Now they are the darling of the Democrats and the toast of the liberal world and should be showered with unlimited cash. What changed? I would say the ability for some American and Ukrainians to cash in and skim untold millions from the aid the US started sending. Ukraine was also the source for a big percentage of the cyber crimes hitting businesses and organizations all around the world. Most of it was either state sponsored or at the very least the state turned a blind eye to it. Ransomware alone costs businesses over $20 billion per year.
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." - Samuel Adams
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/07/23 06:27 PM
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leethefishking
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Counting cruise missiles as losses seems kinda stupid. Where’s the lost bullet count?
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/07/23 07:31 PM
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Rescue Fire
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If Russia would have lost anywhere close to those totals, they would’ve already nuked Ukraine
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: Fishin' Nut]
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09/07/23 07:55 PM
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I haven’t seen any news outlet showing the dead bodies of Russian’s or a even a number count for that matter. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2023/09/full-3327-197175-rl.jpeg) And the billions in aid is not cash, it is war materiel. Салва Украине! Краща частина вас бігла по нозі своєї мами!!
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
#14832043
09/07/23 08:13 PM
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a777pilot
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Ukraine's government is corrupt.
USA's government is corrupt.
Russia's and China's governments are well beyond corrupt.
The USA giving billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine is much better than spending trillions of dollars on the endless wars in the middle East.
Are vast amounts of these dollars being stolen by Ukrainians and Americans? YES!!!
However, when all is said and done, no American military are dying in eastern Europe and very many Russian are being wiped out. To me that is a good thing.
Am I wrong?
Look! Up in the sky. It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's an EMP!
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: Duke 22]
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09/07/23 08:17 PM
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a777pilot
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[/quote] Краща частина вас бігла по нозі своєї мами!![/quote]
That was not very nice of you!
Look! Up in the sky. It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's an EMP!
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: Fishin' Nut]
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09/07/23 11:51 PM
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I haven’t seen any news outlet showing the dead bodies of Russian’s or a even a number count for that matter. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2023/09/full-3327-197175-rl.jpeg) And the billions in aid is not cash, it is war materiel. Салва Украине! Looking at global news sites that have reported lost Russian assets, nobody on planet Earth is reporting those kinds of numbers.
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/08/23 01:18 PM
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The Russian government publicly acknowledges 6000 + dead Russian soldiers. The media in Russa puts the number of dead Russians over 50,000. Our military and intelligence agencies put the number of Russian casualties "well over" 200,000 (dead and wounded). The Brits peg the number north of 220,000. The real number is likely higher. https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-losses-in-ukraine-surpass-200000-ukraine-intelIf you doubt Russians are being killed, get on the web and look around. You can personally watch thousands of them being killed on video. Everything from seeing Russians mowed down in trenches to drones dropping bombs on their melons (literally). Republican leaders in Congress assess a full 50% reduction in Russian military capability since the start of the war in terms of equipment and manpower. Lastly, here are some facts we are absolutely sure of: -Russia's initial invasion swept nearly all the way to Kiev. They've since lost 80% of those initial gains and have not been able to gain any meaningful ground since. They are now dug in trying to hold what little they have left. (about 11% of Ukraine) -The war is going so poorly for Russia Putin has had to do multiple mobilizations of hundreds of thousands of men and he still hasn't moved the needle. -One of his biggest war lords openly mutinied on him and publicly berated the war effort and how poorly it was going for Russia.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/08/23 01:29 PM
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This is over a year old, but other sites like this exist. I just don't have the time to find them this morning. Anyway, this website tracks every verifiable equipment loss for the Russians. A picture or video is shown for every single loss. They go to great lengths to make sure everything is verifiable with no double counts. Click the links to see the damaged or destroyed equipment with your own eyes. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: chickenman]
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09/08/23 05:14 PM
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Fishin' Nut
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Looking at global news sites that have reported lost Russian assets, nobody on planet Earth is reporting those kinds of numbers.
Looks like Jpurdue has already answered your question.
Waiting on Bob Davis' next selfie
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Re: Another billion...
[Re: WAWI]
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09/09/23 12:31 AM
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Our annual defense budget is 750 billion. About 20% of that, or a 150 billion annually, is specifically designated to thwart Russian aggression globally. That ratio has held steady since the cold war. Literally tens of trillions of dollars with zero Russians killed. Just an arms race on both sides.
Now we spend a fraction of that and are stacking up dead Russians like cordwood with zero American soldiers slinging lead and everyone melts down...
The only thing that is being stacked like cordwood is piles of our money in the hands of crooked Ukrainian politicians minus the kick back for crooked American politicians. Please don't forget Biden and Putin and their corrupt minions. Volodymyr Zelensky is getting extremely wealthy along with the Bidens, and Putin. It's all kicked back from the military / industrial complexes. We did the same with Viet Nam, Iraq, and now the Ukraine.
Biden famously said in the New York Observer, “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
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