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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: pchapin] #14822763 08/25/23 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
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Todd can either accept TP&WD's offer or take his chances on the three person Freestone County panel's appraisal. I guess the question he has to ask himself is, "Do I feel lucky?"

The three-person panel will not be doing the appraisal. They will get appraisals from licensed, qualified appraisers.

Appraisal has more than one meaning.

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Haven't been following this the last month, whats the cliffs notes on whats happened since?

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Originally Posted by Scoundrel
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Todd can either accept TP&WD's offer or take his chances on the three person Freestone County panel's appraisal. I guess the question he has to ask himself is, "Do I feel lucky?"

The three-person panel will not be doing the appraisal. They will get appraisals from licensed, qualified appraisers.

Appraisal has more than one meaning.

In this case there is only one meaning. An appraisal done by someone licensed by the Texas Appraiser Licensing & Certification Board and qualified to do the work. It will not be done by three farmers from Fairfield.


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: pchapin] #14822779 08/25/23 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
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Todd can either accept TP&WD's offer or take his chances on the three person Freestone County panel's appraisal. I guess the question he has to ask himself is, "Do I feel lucky?"

The three-person panel will not be doing the appraisal. They will get appraisals from licensed, qualified appraisers.

Appraisal has more than one meaning.

In this case there is only one meaning. An appraisal done by someone licensed by the Texas Appraiser Licensing & Certification Board and qualified to do the work. It will not be done by three farmers from Fairfield.


So, what is their function if its not to appraise the property?
If they are appointed to set a price their either go about doing it themselves, hire one or several people to do it or pull a number out of the sky.
Maybe they just choose who does the appraisal and if they agree on its result.

When you say its not going to be done by three farmers, are you sure? The guidelines I read only said three uninterested residents of Freestone County.


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: pchapin] #14822791 08/25/23 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
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Originally Posted by pchapin
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Todd can either accept TP&WD's offer or take his chances on the three person Freestone County panel's appraisal. I guess the question he has to ask himself is, "Do I feel lucky?"

The three-person panel will not be doing the appraisal. They will get appraisals from licensed, qualified appraisers.

Appraisal has more than one meaning.

In this case there is only one meaning. An appraisal done by someone licensed by the Texas Appraiser Licensing & Certification Board and qualified to do the work. It will not be done by three farmers from Fairfield.

No worries, just pointing out that Razorback was accurate in his statement that the panel’s “appraisal” means assessment or evaluation of ALL the facts. They can decide exactly as or above or below any formal property appraisals that are made available.
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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Allison1] #14822805 08/25/23 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
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Originally Posted by pchapin
The three-person panel will not be doing the appraisal. They will get appraisals from licensed, qualified appraisers.

Appraisal has more than one meaning.

In this case there is only one meaning. An appraisal done by someone licensed by the Texas Appraiser Licensing & Certification Board and qualified to do the work. It will not be done by three farmers from Fairfield.


So, what is their function if its not to appraise the property?
If they are appointed to set a price their either go about doing it themselves, hire one or several people to do it or pull a number out of the sky.
Maybe they just choose who does the appraisal and if they agree on its result.

When you say its not going to be done by three farmers, are you sure? The guidelines I read only said three uninterested residents of Freestone County.

“ three disinterested real property owners who reside in the county”

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Scoundrel] #14822831 08/25/23 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoundrel

“ three disinterested real property owners who reside in the county”


Thank you for the clarification. Yes, I was wrong.

Here is a link to the law, I think.
It appears that they use available evidence by both parties instead of getting their own appraisal. They schedule a hearing and let each side present their case. That will be an interesting event.
https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._prop._code_section_21.014
There is a link at the bottom of it that is slightly longer, from the state.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PR/htm/PR.21.htm#21.014


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14823062 08/26/23 12:14 AM
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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Ken A.] #14823159 08/26/23 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken A.

They conveniently left out that his term ended on February 1st. Is it a coincidence that they finally announced his replacement? - Who knows...


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14823165 08/26/23 01:59 AM
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This might have something to do with Aplin being "replaced".

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Arch H. “Beaver” Aplin, III was appointed to the Commission by Governor Greg Abbott on November 15, 2018 for a term that will expire February 1, 2023.


https://tpwd.texas.gov/about/commission

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9/1/2023……Texas takes legal action to save Fairfield Lake State Park
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...ve-fairfield-lake-state-park/ar-AA1g7w5v

FORT WORTH — In a new attempt to save Fairfield Lake State Park, the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department filed a petition to condemn and seize the 5,000-acre property south of Dallas through eminent domain.

The petition was filed in Freestone County District Court Friday morning, after months of unsuccessful negotiations with Dallas-based developer Todd Interests, which plans to turn the former park into a high-end gated subdivision.

The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department wrote in an email that this step was “necessary to pursue acquisition at fair market value to preserve Fairfield Lake State Park and Fairfield Lake for all Texans.”

A spokesperson for Todd Interests said Shawn Todd, the company’s CEO, was unavailable to comment. In a previous interview, Todd said his company purchased the land legally and he is not selling.

Eminent domain experts say Texas can seize the land because the property serves a public purpose as a park.

The battle over the park’s ownership has been brewing for years.

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^^^^Old news^^^^


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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: SteezMacQueen] #14828875 09/02/23 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
^^^^Old news^^^^

Wrong...

This is the current development after the two offers of $103 Million were rejected. I am pretty sure that number is quite different from the $85 Million number I remembered Todd disclosing. Now we're moving forward with the 3 resident panel and the appraisal.

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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14828933 09/02/23 04:11 PM
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first off it hasnt been brewing for years the state got to use the park for free for all these years when their free lease ran out it was sold to the highest bidder for a private development property the market price is set if the state wants to make the todd group whole on this deal great but dont really think the state should steal it from them. after all they have all that money they could have bought it with to begin with so less rthan2% of the state population could be happy.

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