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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14818585 08/21/23 02:21 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 17,058 Denison, TX Chris B TFF Guru
Chris B TFF Guru Joined: May 2003 Posts: 17,058 Denison, TX	I think they will agree with the state appraisal at 85.

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Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14818720 08/21/23 04:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 25,585 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa... S SteezMacQueen TFF Guru
SteezMacQueen TFF Guru S Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 25,585 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa...	Anonymous means it didn’t happen. Nobody would donate that kind of money for some hillbillies to go fishing. Eat. Sleep. Fish.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Chris B] #14818724 08/21/23 04:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 154 Central Texas Nathan Bass Outdoorsman
Nathan Bass Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 154 Central Texas	Chris....I second that appraisal, do we have a third vote????? 85 million is a fair price for the property without all the water rights BS. Fingers crossed my name pops up as one of the three Freestone residents picked to set the price or serve on the jury.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: SteezMacQueen] #14818735 08/21/23 04:36 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 43,166 W WAWI TFF Guru
WAWI TFF Guru W Joined: May 2007 Posts: 43,166	Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Anonymous means it didn’t happen. Nobody would donate that kind of money for some hillbillies to go fishing. Exactly lolz hopefully it's a good golf course, maybe they will do a stay and play deal like pine dunes. 1500 for a couple nights, a couple rounds of golf and a day pass for lake..... that would be a good weekend

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: WAWI] #14818760 08/21/23 05:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,006 Frisco, TX C Chris G TFF Team Angler
Chris G TFF Team Angler C Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,006 Frisco, TX	Originally Posted by WAWI Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Anonymous means it didn’t happen. Nobody would donate that kind of money for some hillbillies to go fishing. Exactly lolz hopefully it's a good golf course, maybe they will do a stay and play deal like pine dunes. 1500 for a couple nights, a couple rounds of golf and a day pass for lake..... that would be a good weekend That would be awesome! I still think the State wins but if they don't I sure hope they do some condos for stuff like that. Fish then golf then repeat for a few days.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Nathan Bass] #14818926 08/21/23 08:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx Allison1 TFF Guru
Allison1 TFF Guru Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx	Originally Posted by Nathan Bass Chris....I second that appraisal, do we have a third vote????? 85 million is a fair price for the property without all the water rights BS. Fingers crossed my name pops up as one of the three Freestone residents picked to set the price or serve on the jury. The three will come from three residents of Freestone County that are "disinterested" if the follow the law. Originally Posted by Jons3825 I am wrong but you can not prove it, you just believe it enough from the bottom of your heart..... .......Every post you make I'll be trolling you.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Allison1] #14818984 08/21/23 10:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 154 Central Texas Nathan Bass Outdoorsman
Nathan Bass Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 154 Central Texas	Allison.....I thought that would "Trigger" you... I could pretend to be disinterested, just like all the Liberals do when they lie to get selected on jury's..lol.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14819036 08/21/23 10:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx Allison1 TFF Guru
Allison1 TFF Guru Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx	I know. I am curious how this will all turn out. I would like to fish there again but IMO the chances of that are not that good. Originally Posted by Jons3825 I am wrong but you can not prove it, you just believe it enough from the bottom of your heart..... .......Every post you make I'll be trolling you.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14820828 08/23/23 08:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,335 Lake Graham, Lot 30 machinist TFF Team Angler
machinist TFF Team Angler Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,335 Lake Graham, Lot 30	145 mil. Todd’s 110 plus 35 mil for Todd’s trouble I fish on the edge and stay out of the middle 99 BassCat Jag w/225 Merc Optimax Retired TXU Outage Manager

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14820832 08/23/23 08:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 23,816 Cherokee County L lconn4 TFF Guru
lconn4 TFF Guru L Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 23,816 Cherokee County	A good rule of angling philosophy is not to interfere with another fisherman's ways of being happy, unless you want to be hated. Zane Grey, Tales of Fishes, 1919 https://vimeo.com/73372194 https://vimeo.com/72859045

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14821643 08/24/23 05:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx Allison1 TFF Guru
Allison1 TFF Guru Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx	https://tpwd.texas.gov/newsmedia/releases/?req=20230824a Quote AUSTIN— The Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission adopted a policy Thursday limiting its use of eminent domain. The policy, adopted during the commission’s August meeting, limits the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) from taking private property for park sites except under exceptional and unusual circumstances, mainly property previously dedicated to public use as a park. “Given its significant potential impact on private landowners, our commissioners chose to limit TPWD’s use of eminent domain to ensure it will be used exceedingly sparingly and only under specified circumstances,” said Commission Chairman Arch “Beaver” Aplin III. “The policy is clear — TPWD will not use eminent domain to condemn residences, farms or ranches.” Parks and Wildlife Code (section 21.103) authorizes TPWD to acquire park sites through condemnation with payment of fair market value compensation to the landowner. This is how inept our state parks and wildlife is. They voted to accept this limit on when they can use eminent domain. Notice how they used the word "mainly". That allows them to use it for everything in Texas except "residences, farms and ranches". Why in the world did they even bother? I think Todd will use "Given its significant potential impact on private landowners," in his impending lawsuit. He'll say "What! Am I not a private landowner?". I wonder what they'll come up with today. Originally Posted by Jons3825 I am wrong but you can not prove it, you just believe it enough from the bottom of your heart..... .......Every post you make I'll be trolling you.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14821680 08/24/23 05:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,513 Tyler, TX, USA R Razorback TFF Guru
Razorback TFF Guru R Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,513 Tyler, TX, USA	That policy in no way precludes TP&WD from using eminent domain on the Fairfield property. If anything, it spells out that they can seize it..."The policy, adopted during the commission’s August meeting, limits the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) from taking private property for park sites except under exceptional and unusual circumstances, mainly property previously dedicated to public use as a park.". One way to read that might be, "We're not going to use eminent domain authority to take any ol' property we want, but we are going to take this property."

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Razorback] #14821691 08/24/23 05:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx Allison1 TFF Guru
Allison1 TFF Guru Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 39,802 Grand Prairie, Tx	Originally Posted by Razorback One way to read that might be, "We're not going to use eminent domain authority to take any ol' property we want, but we are going to take this property." Huh? How do you delineate the difference between "we are not" and "we are". As I said why bother if all they are going to produce has no meaning. Originally Posted by Jons3825 I am wrong but you can not prove it, you just believe it enough from the bottom of your heart..... .......Every post you make I'll be trolling you.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: RPD] #14821702 08/24/23 05:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,513 Tyler, TX, USA R Razorback TFF Guru
Razorback TFF Guru R Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,513 Tyler, TX, USA	It may be a PR move, in response to people claiming government overreach or worrying that the state is going to start condemning and seizing property willy nilly. Maybe the Governor or someone in the Legislature pushed for this clarification. I don't know why they did it. Regardless, that policy statement does nothing to limit TP&WD when it comes to condemning property previously used as a park...such as Fairfield.

Re: FAIRFIELD, things are about to get interesting [Re: Allison1] #14821895 08/24/23 08:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 8,506 Bedrock. S Scoundrel TFF Celebrity
Scoundrel TFF Celebrity S Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 8,506 Bedrock.	Originally Posted by Allison1 https://tpwd.texas.gov/newsmedia/releases/?req=20230824a Quote AUSTIN— The Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission adopted a policy Thursday limiting its use of eminent domain. The policy, adopted during the commission’s August meeting, limits the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) from taking private property for park sites except under exceptional and unusual circumstances, mainly property previously dedicated to public use as a park. “Given its significant potential impact on private landowners, our commissioners chose to limit TPWD’s use of eminent domain to ensure it will be used exceedingly sparingly and only under specified circumstances,” said Commission Chairman Arch “Beaver” Aplin III. “The policy is clear — TPWD will not use eminent domain to condemn residences, farms or ranches.” Parks and Wildlife Code (section 21.103) authorizes TPWD to acquire park sites through condemnation with payment of fair market value compensation to the landowner. This is how inept our state parks and wildlife is. They voted to accept this limit on when they can use eminent domain. Notice how they used the word "mainly". That allows them to use it for everything in Texas except "residences, farms and ranches". Why in the world did they even bother? I think Todd will use "Given its significant potential impact on private landowners," in his impending lawsuit. He'll say "What! Am I not a private landowner?". I wonder what they'll come up with today. Well, that was today.

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