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Re: Fitness
[Re: WAWI]
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08/16/23 03:50 PM
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BlueNitro
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benching that much will wreck your shoulders..lighten up I agree to some degree but you do need to stress the muscles to get value out of the exercises you're doing. I do have bad arthritis in my right shoulder (from throwing baseballs and softballs so much) so I am careful but I also am strengthening the shoulder to help support the joint and for the lifting. I usually start with 155lbs and will do 100 reps in under 10 minutes (30 reps - min rest, 15 reps - min rest, 13 reps - min rest, 12 reps - min rest, 10 reps - min rest, 10 reps - min rest, 10 reps - last three sets of 10's do an underhand grip which works the lower pecs). Make sure it's timed because if you can't do it within the ten minutes then you need less weight or if you can do it around eight minutes than you need to add weight. This works the entire pecs more deeply. But then I work up in weight until I get to max to build strength and size (3 sets at 225 for 10-12, 2 sets at 275 for 7-10, 2 sets at 295 for 5-7, then I hit max for 3-5 depending on how I feel). Then I hit Inclines (3 sets at 225 for 10-12, 2 sets at 245 for 7-10, 2 sets at 265 for 5-7) and dumbbell presses/flys for my typical chest days. You gotta wreck'em to grow'em!!! Then I will do arms to finish up the day. Now ask me about my arm routine that I do 5 times a week. Is that a 2 day a week workout for chest Yes, at least I try my best for twice a week. Mon - Chest/Tri Tues - Back/Biceps Wed - Shoulder/traps Thurs - burnouts with cables for back/lats/delts Fri - legs and tri/biceps Sat - chest again and this is where I try to up my max but as I work up on the weight I don't do as many sets.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: BlueNitro]
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08/16/23 03:55 PM
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grout-scout
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Minner Bucket]
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08/16/23 03:56 PM
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Jpurdue
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Are you benching 350 on a machine or free weights on a bar? 350 free weight is legit sir! (Not that a machine isn't, but I think a machine probably adds a solid 35 lbs to a max)
I'd like to get to 315 free weight bench press. I had plateaued for a long time around 260. I had to drop down to lighter weights at higher reps and focus on incline, and free dumbbell presses to finally break through 275. Others are right there is a fine line to walk with the whole thing. The stronger you are the better, as long as you don't get hurt.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Minner Bucket]
#14813251
08/16/23 04:07 PM
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BlueNitro
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WAWI - since you have a home gym try this 4 - 5 times a week at night before you go to bed (assuming you train in the AM). Take your 10lb dumbbells and lay on a flat bench and do 50 reps of close grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 30 reps of hammer curls (pause 1/2 sec at top each time), lay back down and do 25 reps of open grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 15 reps of hammer curls, lay back down and do 25 reps of open grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 15 reps of hammer curls. So you just did 100 reps of skullcrushers and 60 reps of hammer curls and you need to do this 2 more times for a total of 300 and 180 reps. Warning - you will be sore in your arms the next morning and be careful if you elbow starts to hurt.
After a couple of weeks you may want to double up on your TRT because your arms will be swole and the misses may not leave you alone if you know what I mean.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14813270
08/16/23 04:23 PM
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BlueNitro
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Are you benching 350 on a machine or free weights on a bar? 350 free weight is legit sir! (Not that a machine isn't, but I think a machine probably adds a solid 35 lbs to a max)
I'd like to get to 315 free weight bench press. I had plateaued for a long time around 260. I had to drop down to lighter weights at higher reps and focus on incline, and free dumbbell presses to finally break through 275. Others are right there is a fine line to walk with the whole thing. The stronger you are the better, as long as you don't get hurt. I lift at Planet Fitness so usually bench on the Smith rack so I only add 30 lbs for the bar even though they are Olympic (45lb) bars (i.e. 30lb bar, 6 x 45's and 2 25's) . I did lift at a friends gym and did hit 350 for 3 but counted the bar at 45lb's. I do like to hang close the 300 lb mark for max most the time but if I'm feeling it I will push it at times. You're right - "don't get hurt"!!! I like to say that if you can do 1.5 times your body weight for bench that you are strong and you seem to be right there so kudos to you.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Jpurdue]
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08/16/23 05:20 PM
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BlueNitro
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I'd like to get to 315 free weight bench press. I had plateaued for a long time around 260. I had to drop down to lighter weights at higher reps and focus on incline, and free dumbbell presses to finally break through 275. Two exercises to help you get there. First is what I call Jac-Offs. Get a dumbbell (20 - 30 lbs) and hold with both hands with one end pointed up, sit on the edge of a bench and raise the weight just off your lap, now raise the weight to the level where your top hand is level with your eyes (less or higher is cheating yourself) then lower but never touch your lap. I do bend my arms so the weight is about four inches from my chest, if you extend your arms fully it is more of a shoulder lift. Do 10 reps and then switch your hands so the bottom is now on top so you do equal tension and do 10 more reps and 4 - 5 sets. Note - pretend there is a marble on top of the weight and you have to keep it flat through the entire movement so it doesn't roll off and focus that you have a pencil between the center of your chest and you need to squeeze there so it doesn't fall. This works your inner chest which helps at the top of your bench. 2nd is when you are doing inclines (45 degree), lean back with a dumbbell in each hand and do straight arm raises as high as you can to the front of your chest and inwards to get a squeeze. Start with your arms hanging loose and your palms facing up but lift - don't swing. You should really feel this coming from your lower chest which helps when you start the push up during the bench. Also, check out the 100 reps in ten minute routine that I posted earlier. That will reach fibers in your chest that you have never got to before.
Last edited by BlueNitro; 08/16/23 05:26 PM.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: BlueNitro]
#14813386
08/16/23 06:06 PM
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WAWI
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WAWI - since you have a home gym try this 4 - 5 times a week at night before you go to bed (assuming you train in the AM). Take your 10lb dumbbells and lay on a flat bench and do 50 reps of close grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 30 reps of hammer curls (pause 1/2 sec at top each time), lay back down and do 25 reps of open grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 15 reps of hammer curls, lay back down and do 25 reps of open grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 15 reps of hammer curls. So you just did 100 reps of skullcrushers and 60 reps of hammer curls and you need to do this 2 more times for a total of 300 and 180 reps. Warning - you will be sore in your arms the next morning and be careful if you elbow starts to hurt.
After a couple of weeks you may want to double up on your TRT because your arms will be swole and the misses may not leave you alone if you know what I mean.
I work out at night but I will fit that in.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: BlueNitro]
#14813389
08/16/23 06:08 PM
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WAWI
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I'd like to get to 315 free weight bench press. I had plateaued for a long time around 260. I had to drop down to lighter weights at higher reps and focus on incline, and free dumbbell presses to finally break through 275. Two exercises to help you get there. First is what I call Jac-Offs. Get a dumbbell (20 - 30 lbs) and hold with both hands with one end pointed up, sit on the edge of a bench and raise the weight just off your lap, now raise the weight to the level where your top hand is level with your eyes (less or higher is cheating yourself) then lower but never touch your lap. I do bend my arms so the weight is about four inches from my chest, if you extend your arms fully it is more of a shoulder lift. Do 10 reps and then switch your hands so the bottom is now on top so you do equal tension and do 10 more reps and 4 - 5 sets. Note - pretend there is a marble on top of the weight and you have to keep it flat through the entire movement so it doesn't roll off and focus that you have a pencil between the center of your chest and you need to squeeze there so it doesn't fall. This works your inner chest which helps at the top of your bench. 2nd is when you are doing inclines (45 degree), lean back with a dumbbell in each hand and do straight arm raises as high as you can to the front of your chest and inwards to get a squeeze. Start with your arms hanging loose and your palms facing up but lift - don't swing. You should really feel this coming from your lower chest which helps when you start the push up during the bench. Also, check out the 100 reps in ten minute routine that I posted earlier. That will reach fibers in your chest that you have never got to before. The 100 reps sounds kinda like the German volume training deal. I throw in some like that to switch things up some.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: BlueNitro]
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08/17/23 02:10 AM
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H2O Seeker
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WAWI - since you have a home gym try this 4 - 5 times a week at night before you go to bed (assuming you train in the AM). Take your 10lb dumbbells and lay on a flat bench and do 50 reps of close grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 30 reps of hammer curls (pause 1/2 sec at top each time), lay back down and do 25 reps of open grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 15 reps of hammer curls, lay back down and do 25 reps of open grip skullcrushers, then sit up and then do 15 reps of hammer curls. So you just did 100 reps of skullcrushers and 60 reps of hammer curls and you need to do this 2 more times for a total of 300 and 180 reps. Warning - you will be sore in your arms the next morning and be careful if you elbow starts to hurt.
After a couple of weeks you may want to double up on your TRT because your arms will be swole and the misses may not leave you alone if you know what I mean.
Recipe for a Bernie Schultz bicep tendon rupture. People tend to overlook total volume especially deconditioned individuals.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: BlueNitro]
#14813962
08/17/23 02:14 AM
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1ShotNoKills
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I'd like to get to 315 free weight bench press. I had plateaued for a long time around 260. I had to drop down to lighter weights at higher reps and focus on incline, and free dumbbell presses to finally break through 275. Two exercises to help you get there. First is what I call Jac-Offs. Get a dumbbell (20 - 30 lbs) and hold with both hands with one end pointed up, sit on the edge of a bench and raise the weight just off your lap, now raise the weight to the level where your top hand is level with your eyes (less or higher is cheating yourself) then lower but never touch your lap. I do bend my arms so the weight is about four inches from my chest, if you extend your arms fully it is more of a shoulder lift. Do 10 reps and then switch your hands so the bottom is now on top so you do equal tension and do 10 more reps and 4 - 5 sets. Note - pretend there is a marble on top of the weight and you have to keep it flat through the entire movement so it doesn't roll off and focus that you have a pencil between the center of your chest and you need to squeeze there so it doesn't fall. This works your inner chest which helps at the top of your bench. 2nd is when you are doing inclines (45 degree), lean back with a dumbbell in each hand and do straight arm raises as high as you can to the front of your chest and inwards to get a squeeze. Start with your arms hanging loose and your palms facing up but lift - don't swing. You should really feel this coming from your lower chest which helps when you start the push up during the bench. Also, check out the 100 reps in ten minute routine that I posted earlier. That will reach fibers in your chest that you have never got to before. Umm
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Re: Fitness
[Re: BlueNitro]
#14813969
08/17/23 02:19 AM
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Ghost4BH
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I'd like to get to 315 free weight bench press. I had plateaued for a long time around 260. I had to drop down to lighter weights at higher reps and focus on incline, and free dumbbell presses to finally break through 275. Two exercises to help you get there. First is what I call Jac-Offs. Get a dumbbell (20 - 30 lbs) and hold with both hands Shake weight may work better than a dumbbell
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Minner Bucket]
#14814163
08/17/23 12:44 PM
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Tiltman
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I bet all you mfers shave your damn chest forearms and nuts too, way too much Chris Chris in this thread
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Tiltman]
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08/17/23 12:47 PM
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Mark Perry
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I bet all you mfers shave your damn chest forearms and nuts too, way too much Chris Chris in this thread It is kinda odd to share shirtless pictures of yourself on a fishing forum full of mostly dudes. Nothing really surprises me much on social media/ forums these days but that was a little odd.....
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Mark Perry]
#14814243
08/17/23 01:32 PM
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grout-scout
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I bet all you mfers shave your damn chest forearms and nuts too, way too much Chris Chris in this thread It is kinda odd to share shirtless pictures of yourself on a fishing forum full of mostly dudes. Nothing really surprises me much on social media/ forums these days but that was a little odd..... Wow, you two must not be OK with your sexuality. Just having fun Purdue, donโt get offended.
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Re: Fitness
[Re: Minner Bucket]
#14814274
08/17/23 02:13 PM
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Tiltman
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way ok , and ok w my Michelin man physique
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