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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: Minner Bucket]
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06/13/23 11:56 PM
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grout-scout
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Y’all take it easy on Jim and Gail. Long time family friends and good as gold if you know them. Small town with little to no qualified help, so he pretty much does it all mechanically. I’ve known them since I was 3 years old, but understand what some may think, Jim has no filter and does it his way. I’ve seen it with my own eyes many times. He’s a trip! Ohhhhh, so you were the one that she was saving the Mexican fishing license for!
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: grout-scout]
#14748945
06/13/23 11:58 PM
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Minner Bucket
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Y’all take it easy on Jim and Gail. Long time family friends and good as gold if you know them. Small town with little to no qualified help, so he pretty much does it all mechanically. I’ve known them since I was 3 years old, but understand what some may think, Jim has no filter and does it his way. I’ve seen it with my own eyes many times. He’s a trip! Ohhhhh, so you were the one that she was saving the Mexican fishing license for!
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: D1988]
#14749814
06/14/23 10:16 PM
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Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,476
T-racer @ Mallard Marine
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The marine industry is hard right now. We're out in the middle of nowhere East Texas. Finding qualified help is impossible. No good young techs, and the good ones leave to work automotive industry or elsewhere that pay much better. We're almost 50 boats deep, but we will take in any and everything, and do our best to help folks when we can. There's still good dealers out there, but we're overrun something fierce and the stress is something serious. Lot lot lot of impatient customers, but we try to take it in stride every day.
Mallard Marine Nacogdoches, Tx 936-225-3244 - Authorized Sales/Service Mercury Outboards - Allison Boats
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: T-racer @ Mallard Marine]
#14749828
06/14/23 10:23 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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The marine industry is hard right now. We're out in the middle of nowhere East Texas. Finding qualified help is impossible. No good young techs, and the good ones leave to work automotive industry or elsewhere that pay much better. We're almost 50 boats deep, but we will take in any and everything, and do our best to help folks when we can. There's still good dealers out there, but we're overrun something fierce and the stress is something serious. Lot lot lot of impatient customers, but we try to take it in stride every day. Well. As much as boat mechanics charge, y’all should get paid better.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: ssmith]
#14749848
06/14/23 10:51 PM
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Posts: 2,776
basscaster46
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good service people are in high demand some dealers have chosen to take care of the folks that buy their boats . That kind of attitude I wouldn’t ever buy a boat from them period.
I got all day I’m retired
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: basscaster46]
#14749856
06/14/23 11:03 PM
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Happykamper
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If you are in business for yourself then you most likely understand how bad the labor shortage is, especially skilled labor, if you are a 9 to 5 er you may not, it is brutal trying to keep a good staff.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: D1988]
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06/15/23 12:03 AM
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D1988
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Yep I understand about labor issues. It seems alot want to get paid for not much effort.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: D1988]
#14750016
06/15/23 01:31 AM
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JBranham
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Best thing to do is learn to work on as much of your own equipment as you can handle. I know there are some things you will need a service department to take care of but 90% of this stuff is fairly easy to maintain, troubleshoot, and repair yourself if you’ll do some research.
I know it’s defeats the purpose of buying a high priced boat with promises from a dealer to keep it fully maintained and covered but you could go months without a boat if you’re that stubborn.
I hate not having my boat so it takes something major to turn it over to service.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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06/15/23 01:49 AM
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Joined: Aug 2016
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T-racer @ Mallard Marine
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The marine industry is hard right now. We're out in the middle of nowhere East Texas. Finding qualified help is impossible. No good young techs, and the good ones leave to work automotive industry or elsewhere that pay much better. We're almost 50 boats deep, but we will take in any and everything, and do our best to help folks when we can. There's still good dealers out there, but we're overrun something fierce and the stress is something serious. Lot lot lot of impatient customers, but we try to take it in stride every day. Well. As much as boat mechanics charge, y’all should get paid better. I don't mind sharing: My guys are on combo base pay and commission pay, but my 2 lead guys average $30/hr, which in East Texas should be pretty good money. Our shop rate is $110/hr. Many of our local tractor dealerships are well over $150/hr, all of the RV shops are in that zone, as well as the big auto dealerships. Good techs will leave because those shops can afford to pay even more at those kind of rates. While we do have a yard full, I still can't get behind raising our rate at this time. Tractors and trucks are used to make money: people will pay to fix them. Boats on the other hand are toys, and while they are just as, if not more difficult to work on than today's automotive stuff (because there's so many vehicles that most have computers, manuals, or other means that tell you exactly how to do the job), I still can't justify raising our rate yet. My 2 cents. Young kids have much better avenues to enter the automotive and diesel tech industry than they do the marine industry. Most business of ANY kind are having labor shortages, but the marine industry is as bad or worse as any.
Mallard Marine Nacogdoches, Tx 936-225-3244 - Authorized Sales/Service Mercury Outboards - Allison Boats
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: D1988]
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06/15/23 02:44 AM
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361V
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Every service oriented business took a dump during Covid. Many have never recovered. Most of the problems came from lack of help. Remember how many restaurants weren’t able to open there dining rooms long after the bans were lifted and continued to drive thru only because they did not have the help. Covid(and a certain political party) taught people not to work! If you think this statement^^^^ is meant to be political “you’re dang skippy”!!! 🤔🤷🏻♂️🙄
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: T-racer @ Mallard Marine]
#14750080
06/15/23 03:03 AM
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4Weight
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The marine industry is hard right now. We're out in the middle of nowhere East Texas. Finding qualified help is impossible. No good young techs, and the good ones leave to work automotive industry or elsewhere that pay much better. We're almost 50 boats deep, but we will take in any and everything, and do our best to help folks when we can. There's still good dealers out there, but we're overrun something fierce and the stress is something serious. Lot lot lot of impatient customers, but we try to take it in stride every day. Well. As much as boat mechanics charge, y’all should get paid better. I don't mind sharing: My guys are on combo base pay and commission pay, but my 2 lead guys average $30/hr, which in East Texas should be pretty good money. Our shop rate is $110/hr. Many of our local tractor dealerships are well over $150/hr, all of the RV shops are in that zone, as well as the big auto dealerships. Good techs will leave because those shops can afford to pay even more at those kind of rates. While we do have a yard full, I still can't get behind raising our rate at this time. Tractors and trucks are used to make money: people will pay to fix them. Boats on the other hand are toys, and while they are just as, if not more difficult to work on than today's automotive stuff (because there's so many vehicles that most have computers, manuals, or other means that tell you exactly how to do the job), I still can't justify raising our rate yet. My 2 cents. Young kids have much better avenues to enter the automotive and diesel tech industry than they do the marine industry. Most business of ANY kind are having labor shortages, but the marine industry is as bad or worse as any. I have read your posts and feel for you and your business. That being said do research on your competitors within 90 minutes of you and if needed raise your prices. Now is the time every other industry has, why not you. It seems to me your company is doing a stand up job. Get paid for it and take care of your techs. My 2 cents.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: T-racer @ Mallard Marine]
#14750083
06/15/23 03:07 AM
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Posts: 40,668
WAWI
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The marine industry is hard right now. We're out in the middle of nowhere East Texas. Finding qualified help is impossible. No good young techs, and the good ones leave to work automotive industry or elsewhere that pay much better. We're almost 50 boats deep, but we will take in any and everything, and do our best to help folks when we can. There's still good dealers out there, but we're overrun something fierce and the stress is something serious. Lot lot lot of impatient customers, but we try to take it in stride every day. Well. As much as boat mechanics charge, y’all should get paid better. I don't mind sharing: My guys are on combo base pay and commission pay, but my 2 lead guys average $30/hr, which in East Texas should be pretty good money. Our shop rate is $110/hr. Many of our local tractor dealerships are well over $150/hr, all of the RV shops are in that zone, as well as the big auto dealerships. Good techs will leave because those shops can afford to pay even more at those kind of rates. While we do have a yard full, I still can't get behind raising our rate at this time. Tractors and trucks are used to make money: people will pay to fix them. Boats on the other hand are toys, and while they are just as, if not more difficult to work on than today's automotive stuff (because there's so many vehicles that most have computers, manuals, or other means that tell you exactly how to do the job), I still can't justify raising our rate yet. My 2 cents. Young kids have much better avenues to enter the automotive and diesel tech industry than they do the marine industry. Most business of ANY kind are having labor shortages, but the marine industry is as bad or worse as any. Increase your shop rate to 140, pass the extra to them and get them to 60 an hour ..... I know for a fact there are fry cooks pushing 20 an hour in east Texas. It is what it is.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: D1988]
#14750621
06/15/23 05:35 PM
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leethefishking
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Instead of the marine industry constantly lamenting the lack of good help, just what are they doing to recruit new talent into the field? Seems like a situation ripe with opportunities for partnerships with schools and junior colleges.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: leethefishking]
#14750633
06/15/23 05:48 PM
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Posts: 40,668
WAWI
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Instead of the marine industry constantly lamenting the lack of good help, just what are they doing to recruit new talent into the field? Seems like a situation ripe with opportunities for partnerships with schools and junior colleges. They like the status quo, if it takes 6 weeks to get a boat fixed it doesn't bother them. They pay the least amount they can and the wait is your problem. Thats why I think the manufacturers need to take a harder look at who they let have dealerships. At the end of the day bad dealerships damage their brand. When DSM stopped carrying ranger it pretty much took ranger off my list as the other 2 closer options for me were deal breakers.
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Re: Marine Dealer
[Re: leethefishking]
#14750645
06/15/23 06:02 PM
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Posts: 2,986
Txduckhunter
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Instead of the marine industry constantly lamenting the lack of good help, just what are they doing to recruit new talent into the field? Seems like a situation ripe with opportunities for partnerships with schools and junior colleges. This all sounds great and good. There are schools that partner with shops or have a tech class but the reality is that out of a 100 kids that take the class - 1 (one) will make a tech, if your lucky. This isn't a recent thing either, been like this for years.
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