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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: Brandon Dickenson]
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05/17/23 01:07 PM
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HDVS
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Some things just come full circle. I also had changed my opinion after watching Swindle's video. He had stated you "cannot jump a road" and that it says so in the rules. When somebody asked him to share the rule, he came back with the one that states "leaving tournament waters" So here we are again, back at square one where it is very much open for interpretation. How about this, I can guarantee they amend the rules.... I guarantee they will also! And I would bet everyone in smaller boats can thank KP for what's coming. I would bet there will be a change in minimum length and Hp of all boats and a couple of pages of clarification on what can and can't be done. So he is all about the little guy but he will be the reason the little guy won't be fishing BASS out of a smaller boat. All he is really for are clicks on his social media. I wish people could see that.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: HDVS]
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05/17/23 01:10 PM
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Jaredk
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Some things just come full circle. I also had changed my opinion after watching Swindle's video. He had stated you "cannot jump a road" and that it says so in the rules. When somebody asked him to share the rule, he came back with the one that states "leaving tournament waters" So here we are again, back at square one where it is very much open for interpretation. How about this, I can guarantee they amend the rules.... I guarantee they will also! And I would bet everyone in smaller boats can thank KP for what's coming. I would bet there will be a change in minimum length and Hp of all boats and a couple of pages of clarification on what can and can't be done. So he is all about the little guy but he will be the reason the little guy won't be fishing BASS out of a smaller boat. All he is really for are clicks on his social media. I wish people could see that. This. It’s ONLY about the clicks for him.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: Mark Perry]
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05/17/23 01:36 PM
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cajuncountryman
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Glad I don't have to watch the swindle's anymore. what bs . Done with BASS.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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05/17/23 02:19 PM
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grandbassslayer
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Randy B went with the small boat a few years back to allegedly fish the backwaters….😆
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: Douglas J]
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05/17/23 02:20 PM
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grandbassslayer
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His boat was never airborne, so where do y'all get he jumped? He slid over it at about 15MPH.
So what was so dangerous about sliding over it in a boat designed to do exactly those kind of things? The people complaining how dangerous it is are the the same ones afraid of getting sued for everything. Meh- I’m afraid of getting sued for everything and I thought it was cool… you cannot be scared if you're the "grand bass slayer". I wouldn’t do- I don’t like scratching my boat…😅
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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05/17/23 02:22 PM
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grandbassslayer
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I didn’t know who this poche guy was - I think he was the one that got punched in a lock right? Anyways started watching his videos a few months ago and I find him likeable and entertaining. I’m not sure why swindle needed to make the video- he comes across as a wannabe hall monitor.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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05/17/23 03:24 PM
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Douglas J
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I didn’t know who this poche guy was - I think he was the one that got punched in a lock right? Anyways started watching his videos a few months ago and I find him likeable and entertaining. I’m not sure why swindle needed to make the video- he comes across as a wannabe hall monitor. Swindle is one of the "elder statesmen" of BASS. He probably feels it's his "role" to speak up.
#MFGA
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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05/17/23 04:06 PM
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78Staff
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I didn’t know who this poche guy was - I think he was the one that got punched in a lock right? Anyways started watching his videos a few months ago and I find him likeable and entertaining. I’m not sure why swindle needed to make the video- he comes across as a wannabe hall monitor. Yep, Poche and Ish. Oddly, this came up on recent Zaldain podcast and apparently Zaldain was there, and inferred to the impact of the boats being a lot more aggressive than most have talked about... as in Poche came in so hot/fast the impact actually cracked fiberglass on both boats. IIRC, it was always referred to as a "bump" in the lock previously.
Last edited by 78Staff; 05/17/23 10:54 PM.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: 78Staff]
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05/17/23 04:39 PM
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kellisag
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I didn’t know who this poche guy was - I think he was the one that got punched in a lock right? Anyways started watching his videos a few months ago and I find him likeable and entertaining. I’m not sure why swindle needed to make the video- he comes across as a wannabe hall monitor. Yep, Poche and Ike. Oddly, this came up on recent Zaldain podcast and apparently Zaldain was there, and inferred to the impact of the boats being a lot more aggressive than most have talked about... as in Poche came in so hot/fast the impact actually cracked fiberglass on both boats. IIRC, it was always referred to as a "bump" in the lock previously. Poche and Ish in the lock.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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05/17/23 04:51 PM
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GeoFisher
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G Man has sat in on more than one or two meetings in Birmingham. BASS leans on him for a lot of input and they should because the guy is a legend and represents them and the sport well. I don't think he comes off as a "hall monitor" as someone said earlier. G is G and I think he gives it ya as straight as can be.
There is a reason just about every tournament organization in America prefaces their rules (usually in the first line) with some statement like this. "All rules interpretations are at the discretion of the tournament director and their decisions are final". The reason for this is this one simple fact.....there is NO WAY to write down every single rule or anticipate every situation that could arise during a fishing tournament. In short, the TD's are the police, judge, and jury. I give BASS credit, they at least have an appeals process for the accused. I am not sure any other organization even has that. Heck, they even let the public know the "types" of people who sit on this appeals board. I give them credit for being transparent at least because that opens them up to even more scrutiny.....see the comments on this page about the college angler on the appeal board.
I like Keith Poche and I feel bad for the dude. I have heard his side and he is right, but I believe his process was wrong. He simply does not have words like "interpretation" on HIS SIDE like BASS does, nor does anyone competing under that shield.
Everything on your bass boat is broken......You just don't know it yet.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: cajuncountryman]
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05/17/23 06:56 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Please explain. Sounds like you think he’s the Peter Pan of bass fishing.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: dramabeats]
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05/17/23 10:14 PM
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Douglas J
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Interesting, what is good for the goose is apparently not good for the gander.
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Re: Poche DQ
[Re: dramabeats]
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05/17/23 10:30 PM
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avid_basser
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Not sure this is the same thing...beaver dam is natural and has water in, around, and under it. That road that Poche jumped was man-made and had no water access unless you physically left water.
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