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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: beartrap]
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04/27/23 01:03 AM
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Jaredk
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if you are one of those who feels “the punishment fits the crime “,I would like to see your reaction to getting a speeding ticket for 2 mph over speed limit….. That’s a dumb one…how about driving without a drivers license?
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: ssmith]
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04/27/23 01:04 AM
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Lone_Wolf
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you have to go by the rules set letting fishermen decide a rule at a weigh in is a disaster waiting to happen when one rule is changed then the rest of the rules dont matter. Exactly, PAA and MLF tried to let the inmates run the prison, it doesn't work.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: beartrap]
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04/27/23 01:09 AM
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Jaredk
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Where do you keep getting the “honest effort to buy a license”? Did I miss a article that said, “I went onto the TPWD website and it told me that I had a license and then I printed it out, only for the ink to be invisible ink and now my paper is blank”? What do you know, that we don’t? This is what I don't get as well... not being in TX I don't know the process, but I've seen videos/read about some "12 pages" of website that you have to work through to get an online license. Is the "I went through all the pages but just didn't click the last button" is just something that was said, or they were actually able to see that he made that attempt somehow? I hate it for the guy, but I don't get all the "they should have let it slide" talk. What about Trey Swindel and his insurance problem a few months ago - should BASS have let that slide because he thought he had the right amount of insurance? According to some of these clowns. No rules should be enforced pretty obvious your reading comphrehension and ability to see the big picture is lacking....by putting the situation to a vote by fellow competitors,you would likely have a solution that avoided criticism of the tournment director and avoid a traumatic incident to an honest and popular young man....only negative and it isn't worth much is that you disappoint those unable to see the big picture or who would enjoy a unearned victory...... What’s there to comprehend? Guy did not have a fishing license. The fish were not caught legally. I’ll put it in a scenario that even you should be able to understand. Hilary Clinton catches a massive sack out of Seminole and posts her selfies on CNN. Fox does an inquiry and finds out Ol Hildebeast doesn’t have a Florida or Georgia fishing license….you gonna be the one that gives her a pass and your approval?
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: Txduckhunter]
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04/27/23 01:20 AM
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Lone_Wolf
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""Good grief man. There is no “may or may not be at fault”. The guy was FISHING without a FISHING LICENSE…it’s not somebody else’s fault.
my sanity and reason tells me the most important thing about a bass tournament is who LEGALLY caught the largest weight without cheating""
there is a big difference between cheating and inadvertently breaking rule...your comments show exactly what you and those who agree with you cannot seem to comphrehend and that is while disqualifying the winner for cheating that helped him win the tournament is justifiable....disqualifying the winner for a questionable breaking of a rule that he may or may not have committed and had no effect on the outcome of the tournament is not cheating and is not justifiable...the winner passed the polygraph which is further proof that he thought he had legally purchased a license and there is a very real possibility he did purchase a license and the system malfunctioned..
as mentioned earlier,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application....you can bet the vast majority of fishermen would voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tornament organizers.......
incidentally,I told earlier about a similar situation that happened several years ago on eufaula and top ten voted to not penalize the two guys who were late due to a mix-up in weigh-in locations....guess who were only two guys that voted to disqualify them....the two guys who would have won....and...we never did see those two again....
Robby Rose passed a lot of polygraphs as well......... Sociopaths like Rose can pass polygraphs, thats why they're not admissible in court.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: Monty Wright]
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04/27/23 01:30 AM
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DLALLDER
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Must be some thing about the Lake Wright Patman, about 20 years ago , a big tourney was held on it and the 2 winners were caught cheating, seems they were stuffing their bass with weights. Lost the 1st place money and IF I remember correct did some jail time.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: Monty Wright]
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04/27/23 02:08 PM
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beartrap
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watch the video and it's pretty obvious Barron made every effort to buy a license and it is very possible the system was at fault causing the license not to record... ,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application... .hard for some people to understand that object of a tournament is to bring in heaviest limit of fish, not to catch somebody with their life jacket not zipped all the way up or a license that didn't register.. ........you can bet the vast majority of tournament fishermen at this level would have voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tournament organizers.......
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: beartrap]
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04/27/23 02:19 PM
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OkAce
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watch the video and it's pretty obvious Barron made every effort to buy a license and it is very possible the system was at fault causing the license not to record... ,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application... .hard for some people to understand that object of a tournament is to bring in heaviest limit of fish, not to catch somebody with their life jacket not zipped all the way up or a license that didn't register.. ........you can bet the vast majority of tournament fishermen at this level would have voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tournament organizers....... They just as well scrap all the rules. Those walleye guys brought in the heaviest limit of fish do you think they shoulda won too?
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: Monty Wright]
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04/27/23 02:23 PM
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Mark Perry
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It all comes down to personal responsibility. I personally think fishing without a valid license is not something you can just ignore in regards to a tournament. He had good intentions no doubt. Expensive mistake.
I am out on other competitors getting to dictate punishment. Nothing good will come of that.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: beartrap]
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04/27/23 02:27 PM
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grout-scout
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watch the video and it's pretty obvious Barron made every effort to buy a license and it is very possible the system was at fault causing the license not to record... ,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application... .hard for some people to understand that object of a tournament is to bring in heaviest limit of fish, not to catch somebody with their life jacket not zipped all the way up or a license that didn't register.. ........you can bet the vast majority of tournament fishermen at this level would have voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tournament organizers....... You have got to be trolling. The guy said, “it’s 100% on him”. So tell us about your DQ (or ticket), because that’s the only way anyone can keep arguing this.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/27/23 02:36 PM
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OkAce
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watch the video and it's pretty obvious Barron made every effort to buy a license and it is very possible the system was at fault causing the license not to record... ,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application... .hard for some people to understand that object of a tournament is to bring in heaviest limit of fish, not to catch somebody with their life jacket not zipped all the way up or a license that didn't register.. ........you can bet the vast majority of tournament fishermen at this level would have voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tournament organizers....... You have got to be trolling. The guy said, “it’s 100% on him”. So tell us about your DQ (or ticket), because that’s the only way anyone can keep arguing this. He must’ve gotten in a jam over not having his life jacket zipped up because he keeps harping on that.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/27/23 02:47 PM
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Douglas J
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watch the video and it's pretty obvious Barron made every effort to buy a license and it is very possible the system was at fault causing the license not to record... ,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application... .hard for some people to understand that object of a tournament is to bring in heaviest limit of fish, not to catch somebody with their life jacket not zipped all the way up or a license that didn't register.. ........you can bet the vast majority of tournament fishermen at this level would have voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tournament organizers....... You have got to be trolling. The guy said, “it’s 100% on him”. So tell us about your DQ (or ticket), because that’s the only way anyone can keep arguing this. My guess is older narcissistic personality. Probably was abused as a child and slaps around their spouse regularly yet tries to portray the "american dream family" image to the outward world.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: beartrap]
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04/27/23 03:02 PM
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rj74955
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""Good grief man. There is no “may or may not be at fault”. The guy was FISHING without a FISHING LICENSE…it’s not somebody else’s fault.
my sanity and reason tells me the most important thing about a bass tournament is who LEGALLY caught the largest weight without cheating""
there is a big difference between cheating and inadvertently breaking rule...your comments show exactly what you and those who agree with you cannot seem to comphrehend and that is while disqualifying the winner for cheating that helped him win the tournament is justifiable....disqualifying the winner for a questionable breaking of a rule that he may or may not have committed and had no effect on the outcome of the tournament is not cheating and is not justifiable...the winner passed the polygraph which is further proof that he thought he had legally purchased a license and there is a very real possibility he did purchase a license and the system malfunctioned..
as mentioned earlier,the best solution for this would have been for them to get the top 10 or top 20 together,explain the situation and ask them to vote whether to disqualify the winner or allow him to re-submit his license application....you can bet the vast majority of fishermen would voted to allow him to re-purchase a license and this would not have caused any hard feelings toward the tornament organizers.......
incidentally,I told earlier about a similar situation that happened several years ago on eufaula and top ten voted to not penalize the two guys who were late due to a mix-up in weigh-in locations....guess who were only two guys that voted to disqualify them....the two guys who would have won....and...we never did see those two again....
Well, can’t blame them for not coming back, 8 guys screwed them out of money. You don’t get to fish until you have 5 good ones.
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: Monty Wright]
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04/27/23 03:36 PM
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Fish Killer
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100% his fault. Should have and was DQ’ed End of story. Shouldn’t have taken that long to make the call from the TD
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Re: TNPFL Wright Patman
[Re: Monty Wright]
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04/27/23 03:37 PM
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Jaredk
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Between the bear trapper and the Boss of Eufaula, I’m not really wanting to fish any tournaments with anglers from Albany, GA
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