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Re: So, Know anyone that wants to be a nurse???? [Re: TR176] #14625319 02/09/23 09:24 PM
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And some of those people passed state boards.



The the nature of NCLEX now, being a short test (Sometimes only 70 questions but no more than 260) with less inclusive and less comprehensive subject questioning can make passing the licensure exam more possible with a "cramming session or 2". I know this next claim is gonna sound like a "I had to walk 5 miles uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow to school and back" type statement but when I took the licensure test there was no 70 cut-off. It was a 2 day, 600 question, 3 hours each morning and 3 hours each afternoon marathon testing session. This more easily weeded out the unprepared and uncommitted crowds. I don't think many, if any, could purchase a diploma and sit for this type of licensure exam and pass it. Certainly not thousands of applicants. Not to mention whereas prospective RN's can now take their test locally at a "testing center" (can anyone say H&R Block? or Sylvan) I had to drive 4.5 hours to Austin and take the test under the watchful eye of the Texas Board of Nursing along with hundreds of other applicants.


I took the computer driven NCLEX it is not as easy as a cram session as the algorithm selects the next question based on your answer to prior questions and my drive one being subjected more and more questions.Now they give a Hesse test prior to enrollment in nursing school which is a predictor of success. They publish mug shots of people who try to pass them selves off as licensed in nursing journals. The most likely place to find imposters is in nursing homes and such. Further, all nurses are checked by fingerprint through the FBI through the board.


My NCLEX experience is no knock on your experience. Just a helluva lot harder and more stressful IMO. And I don't think a fraudulent test taker could have stood up to type testing. To tell the truth I'm pretty jealous of those that took their NCLEX later on. And for sure when I went and tested for my CCRN it was at a testing station in west Houston at an H&R Block office. I stressed then but at least I had immediate feedback on score and passing vs my NCLEX I had to wait 6 weeks for results.

I was fingerprinted later on in my career (after year 2000) but had FBI background check in nursing school 1990. Our instructors warned us about the background check too. Also when I applied for my Maine licensure I went through another FBI background check and was fingerprinted at that time (1997).


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They're just lookin out for the folks (in my best Bill O'reilly voice).


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Re: So, Know anyone that wants to be a nurse???? [Re: Bob Davis] #14625323 02/09/23 09:26 PM
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I could specialize in Breast exams.



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And some of those people passed state boards.



The the nature of NCLEX now, being a short test (Sometimes only 70 questions but no more than 260) with less inclusive and less comprehensive subject questioning can make passing the licensure exam more possible with a "cramming session or 2". I know this next claim is gonna sound like a "I had to walk 5 miles uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow to school and back" type statement but when I took the licensure test there was no 70 cut-off. It was a 2 day, 600 question, 3 hours each morning and 3 hours each afternoon marathon testing session. This more easily weeded out the unprepared and uncommitted crowds. I don't think many, if any, could purchase a diploma and sit for this type of licensure exam and pass it. Certainly not thousands of applicants. Not to mention whereas prospective RN's can now take their test locally at a "testing center" (can anyone say H&R Block? or Sylvan) I had to drive 4.5 hours to Austin and take the test under the watchful eye of the Texas Board of Nursing along with hundreds of other applicants.


So as a nurse, I took the Pearson Vue test 7 years ago. I was not one of the lucky ones to get 75 questions. I got the full 260, and it took 4 hours and 22 minutes. Still remember it vividly to this day. I have my feelings about the test though. Technically, you have to get 51% to pass. The way it works is you start on a line. If you answer a question right, you are above the line. The more questions you answer right, the higher above the line you get, but the harder the questions get. Same goes for if you answer wrong, except the easier they get the lower you get from the starting line. If you get too far above the line, test shuts off and the deem you competent. Get too far below the line, test shuts off and you fail, deemed incompetent. Some are just so lucky to get a full test, no matter how far above or below you get because they need data on questions asked for future tests. Was I the idiot who couldn't get high enough above the line or was I the lucky one to get the full test... I will never know. Based on how terrible of a test taker I am, I am guessing I just wasn't good enough to get high enough and had to grind out the full test. Again, kind of a BS test though, since you can pass with a 51%.

The NCLEX was WAY easier than any of my tests I took in nursing school, especially my exit HESI test to graduate. That test was an absolute monster and that one had to be passed with a 77%. Like I tell all the students we mentor in and out, nursing school does not prep you on how to be a nurse though. It preps you on how to pass the NCLEX. Once you get hired and you get 8-12 weeks of orientation, that is when you really learn policies, procedures, time management and how to manage care between docs and patients. Real life work is where you learn skill sets on actual human beings vs dummies. What you learn in nursing school, barely scrapes the surface of what real life is like in a hospital.

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Originally Posted by TR176
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And some of those people passed state boards.



The the nature of NCLEX now, being a short test (Sometimes only 70 questions but no more than 260) with less inclusive and less comprehensive subject questioning can make passing the licensure exam more possible with a "cramming session or 2". I know this next claim is gonna sound like a "I had to walk 5 miles uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow to school and back" type statement but when I took the licensure test there was no 70 cut-off. It was a 2 day, 600 question, 3 hours each morning and 3 hours each afternoon marathon testing session. This more easily weeded out the unprepared and uncommitted crowds. I don't think many, if any, could purchase a diploma and sit for this type of licensure exam and pass it. Certainly not thousands of applicants. Not to mention whereas prospective RN's can now take their test locally at a "testing center" (can anyone say H&R Block? or Sylvan) I had to drive 4.5 hours to Austin and take the test under the watchful eye of the Texas Board of Nursing along with hundreds of other applicants.


I took the computer driven NCLEX it is not as easy as a cram session as the algorithm selects the next question based on your answer to prior questions and my drive one being subjected more and more questions.Now they give a Hesse test prior to enrollment in nursing school which is a predictor of success. They publish mug shots of people who try to pass them selves off as licensed in nursing journals. The most likely place to find imposters is in nursing homes and such. Further, all nurses are checked by fingerprint through the FBI through the board.


Yeah, we have to take the MBLEx which is not as strenuous as the NCLEx, but is definitely not easy. Unlike the NCLEX, our test does not stop...you have to do the 100 questions regardless of how you are doing. Massage therapists used to have to go to Austin for the test and then a practical which was videotaped to watch the placement of hands and draping...then you'd get the letter of decision as to whether or not you had passed about 6 weeks later. Now, the instructors are supposed to oversee a practical before the student graduates. However, after speaking to an LMT that's held their license for about 2 years, I don't believe that is happening. My instructor had us complete our practical before we were given our certification and allowed to sit for the licensing exam. I don't think massage therapists receive enough instruction and hands on training and have been pushing to up our requirements from 500 clock hours to 750 to 1000 clock hours. We also have to do the fingerprint background check. I have three professional licenses and all three require it.

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Re: So, Know anyone that wants to be a nurse???? [Re: RayBob] #14625374 02/09/23 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RayBob
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And some of those people passed state boards.



The the nature of NCLEX now, being a short test (Sometimes only 70 questions but no more than 260) with less inclusive and less comprehensive subject questioning can make passing the licensure exam more possible with a "cramming session or 2". I know this next claim is gonna sound like a "I had to walk 5 miles uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow to school and back" type statement but when I took the licensure test there was no 70 cut-off. It was a 2 day, 600 question, 3 hours each morning and 3 hours each afternoon marathon testing session. This more easily weeded out the unprepared and uncommitted crowds. I don't think many, if any, could purchase a diploma and sit for this type of licensure exam and pass it. Certainly not thousands of applicants. Not to mention whereas prospective RN's can now take their test locally at a "testing center" (can anyone say H&R Block? or Sylvan) I had to drive 4.5 hours to Austin and take the test under the watchful eye of the Texas Board of Nursing along with hundreds of other applicants.


I took the computer driven NCLEX it is not as easy as a cram session as the algorithm selects the next question based on your answer to prior questions and my drive one being subjected more and more questions.Now they give a Hesse test prior to enrollment in nursing school which is a predictor of success. They publish mug shots of people who try to pass them selves off as licensed in nursing journals. The most likely place to find imposters is in nursing homes and such. Further, all nurses are checked by fingerprint through the FBI through the board.


My NCLEX experience is no knock on your experience. Just a helluva lot harder and more stressful IMO. And I don't think a fraudulent test taker could have stood up to type testing. To tell the truth I'm pretty jealous of those that took their NCLEX later on. And for sure when I went and tested for my CCRN it was at a testing station in west Houston at an H&R Block office. I stressed then but at least I had immediate feedback on score and passing vs my NCLEX I had to wait 6 weeks for results.

I was fingerprinted later on in my career (after year 2000) but had FBI background check in nursing school 1990. Our instructors warned us about the background check too. Also when I applied for my Maine licensure I went through another FBI background check and was fingerprinted at that time (1997).


So there is a pearson vue trick we all did 7 years ago to see if you passed or failed. You had to wait 24-48 hours. Then go back and input your credit card info and try and schedule another test. If you got an error message stating you could not pick a date to test, you passed. If you got the calendar and got to pick a date, you failed. I didn't trust it when I did it, but it always gave me the error and said I couldn't register for another test at the time. Took about a week, and the New Mexico Board of Nursing actually generated my RN number. So I knew I had passed it a week after taking it and was actually hired at a hospital before I even received the Pearson Vue letter stating I had passed 6 weeks later.

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I could specialize in Breast exams.



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Originally Posted by flashman252
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And some of those people passed state boards.



The the nature of NCLEX now, being a short test (Sometimes only 70 questions but no more than 260) with less inclusive and less comprehensive subject questioning can make passing the licensure exam more possible with a "cramming session or 2". I know this next claim is gonna sound like a "I had to walk 5 miles uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow to school and back" type statement but when I took the licensure test there was no 70 cut-off. It was a 2 day, 600 question, 3 hours each morning and 3 hours each afternoon marathon testing session. This more easily weeded out the unprepared and uncommitted crowds. I don't think many, if any, could purchase a diploma and sit for this type of licensure exam and pass it. Certainly not thousands of applicants. Not to mention whereas prospective RN's can now take their test locally at a "testing center" (can anyone say H&R Block? or Sylvan) I had to drive 4.5 hours to Austin and take the test under the watchful eye of the Texas Board of Nursing along with hundreds of other applicants.


So as a nurse, I took the Pearson Vue test 7 years ago. I was not one of the lucky ones to get 75 questions. I got the full 260, and it took 4 hours and 22 minutes. Still remember it vividly to this day. I have my feelings about the test though. Technically, you have to get 51% to pass. The way it works is you start on a line. If you answer a question right, you are above the line. The more questions you answer right, the higher above the line you get, but the harder the questions get. Same goes for if you answer wrong, except the easier they get the lower you get from the starting line. If you get too far above the line, test shuts off and the deem you competent. Get too far below the line, test shuts off and you fail, deemed incompetent. Some are just so lucky to get a full test, no matter how far above or below you get because they need data on questions asked for future tests. Was I the idiot who couldn't get high enough above the line or was I the lucky one to get the full test... I will never know. Based on how terrible of a test taker I am, I am guessing I just wasn't good enough to get high enough and had to grind out the full test. Again, kind of a BS test though, since you can pass with a 51%.

The NCLEX was WAY easier than any of my tests I took in nursing school, especially my exit HESI test to graduate. That test was an absolute monster and that one had to be passed with a 77%. Like I tell all the students we mentor in and out, nursing school does not prep you on how to be a nurse though. It preps you on how to pass the NCLEX. Once you get hired and you get 8-12 weeks of orientation, that is when you really learn policies, procedures, time management and how to manage care between docs and patients. Real life work is where you learn skill sets on actual human beings vs dummies. What you learn in nursing school, barely scrapes the surface of what real life is like in a hospital.

Wait. Y'all can pass with a 51%? Dang! We had to have 70% to pass. They did the same stupid get it right and the next question is harder...They also state that only 21% of our test would be based on anatomy. My test had over 60 questions that were based on anatomy. SUCKED!!!!

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The NCLEX was WAY easier than any of my tests I took in nursing school, especially my exit HESI test to graduate. That test was an absolute monster and that one had to be passed with a 77%. Like I tell all the students we mentor in and out, nursing school does not prep you on how to be a nurse though. It preps you on how to pass the NCLEX. Once you get hired and you get 8-12 weeks of orientation, that is when you really learn policies, procedures, time management and how to manage care between docs and patients. Real life work is where you learn skill sets on actual human beings vs dummies. What you learn in nursing school, barely scrapes the surface of what real life is like in a hospital.


The NCLEX may have been easy. I'd like to know my score other than pass or fail. Being in a large room with hundreds of others under varying amounts of duress I was quite stressed and that the stress in the room was palpable. I had a lot riding on my licensure as I had gone to school later in life and felt I couldn't fail, or else. I'll say also that my confidence needed bolstering. I'll say this, on my Critical Care Certification I passed easily with 111 out of 125. My worst part was my psyche portion as I used my real life experiences and by then (when I took the CCRN) I was a no BS clinician. Just wasn't into the mamby pamby stroke the crazies by then (I scored 50% on that portion).

I might add though that nursing school, only on a base level, prepared me for work as a RN and especially so in a critical setting. I don't see that my nursing school was geared toward NCLEX passage though. My clinicals were thorough and pretty strongly pushed. My clinical instructor my first 2 semesters had done 14 months in Nam in a MASH unit and then returned to work critical care (where she was the subject of an accidental extubation lawsuit) and in the Emergency Dept.. She was a hard driving, no BS instructor that demanded much of us. She constantly used her past experiences, including legal, to hammer on us.

I'll guess it took me around 3 years to reach the point where I was more than competent and after 5 years an excellent clinician as experience is the true teacher. This is my self evaluation but when I look back I can see where others evaluated my skills higher. Especially a couple of docs I respected a lot and some of the remarks they made to me.





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Originally Posted by LoneStarSon
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And some of those people passed state boards.



The the nature of NCLEX now, being a short test (Sometimes only 70 questions but no more than 260) with less inclusive and less comprehensive subject questioning can make passing the licensure exam more possible with a "cramming session or 2". I know this next claim is gonna sound like a "I had to walk 5 miles uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow to school and back" type statement but when I took the licensure test there was no 70 cut-off. It was a 2 day, 600 question, 3 hours each morning and 3 hours each afternoon marathon testing session. This more easily weeded out the unprepared and uncommitted crowds. I don't think many, if any, could purchase a diploma and sit for this type of licensure exam and pass it. Certainly not thousands of applicants. Not to mention whereas prospective RN's can now take their test locally at a "testing center" (can anyone say H&R Block? or Sylvan) I had to drive 4.5 hours to Austin and take the test under the watchful eye of the Texas Board of Nursing along with hundreds of other applicants.


So as a nurse, I took the Pearson Vue test 7 years ago. I was not one of the lucky ones to get 75 questions. I got the full 260, and it took 4 hours and 22 minutes. Still remember it vividly to this day. I have my feelings about the test though. Technically, you have to get 51% to pass. The way it works is you start on a line. If you answer a question right, you are above the line. The more questions you answer right, the higher above the line you get, but the harder the questions get. Same goes for if you answer wrong, except the easier they get the lower you get from the starting line. If you get too far above the line, test shuts off and the deem you competent. Get too far below the line, test shuts off and you fail, deemed incompetent. Some are just so lucky to get a full test, no matter how far above or below you get because they need data on questions asked for future tests. Was I the idiot who couldn't get high enough above the line or was I the lucky one to get the full test... I will never know. Based on how terrible of a test taker I am, I am guessing I just wasn't good enough to get high enough and had to grind out the full test. Again, kind of a BS test though, since you can pass with a 51%.

The NCLEX was WAY easier than any of my tests I took in nursing school, especially my exit HESI test to graduate. That test was an absolute monster and that one had to be passed with a 77%. Like I tell all the students we mentor in and out, nursing school does not prep you on how to be a nurse though. It preps you on how to pass the NCLEX. Once you get hired and you get 8-12 weeks of orientation, that is when you really learn policies, procedures, time management and how to manage care between docs and patients. Real life work is where you learn skill sets on actual human beings vs dummies. What you learn in nursing school, barely scrapes the surface of what real life is like in a hospital.

Wait. Y'all can pass with a 51%? Dang! We had to have 70% to pass. They did the same stupid get it right and the next question is harder...They also state that only 21% of our test would be based on anatomy. My test had over 60 questions that were based on anatomy. SUCKED!!!!


I am not sure what score was required on the test in the early 1990's to pass. I remember that sooooo many of the questions were ambiguous. You'd get a question and all the answers were right but you either had to prioritize or choose the best answer.


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I've seen a helluva lot of naked women and I can tell you ... hale to tha naw!!!!! (I've given a lot of bedbaths and changed a lor of hospital gowns in 30 years. Not a lot of movie stars and workout queens out there. A few . . . but . . .

But, there was this one 21 year old hard body blond turning into the parking lot at the local Dew Drop Inn and got t-boned. Fractured her C-3 and C-4 but was nondisplaced. Treatment was to be a halo vest for 3 months. Interesting getting her gown off and getting her t-shirt on before placing her vest on. She was not supposed to move around much as long as her fracture had not been stabilized. Lets just say it took some hands on maneuvering.


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Now getting my BSN degree (Short for BULLSH** NURSING DEGREE) was a JOKE! Signed a contract when I was hired that I would obtain it within 5 years of hire. I waited 4 years and 6 months before going back to school. Talk about a governmental ponzi scheme! The schooling is all online. No matter where you go, it costs just under 13k. No matter where you go, private, small university, big university, all the same price. I NEVER read one word out of a text book, and I BS'd all my papers and gave it about as much effort as I do in fly fishing at this point... absolutely 0. Got through all of school during the heart of Covid and I booked myself 12 credit hours per semester because I wanted to be done so I could keep my job.

Heres my thoughts on why this all went down. Go back all the way to 2008 housing collapse, less people had children because money was tight and the market SUCKED! Those kids would be entering colleges around the time they started enforcing all nurses to get a BSN (up to a certain age). Colleges were already moaning and groaning on less attendance and lack of profit. So, a quick way to get money quick for colleges was to make nurses get a bachelors degree. And now you are getting this same funding from not only young kid college age, but populations in their 40's were also expected to obtain the degree. Created a lot of money for suffering colleges pretty darn quick.

What pissed me off more than anything in the world was I graduate, my "degree" comes in the mail. I threw it away because I wasn't even proud to have it because I graduated on the deans list with absolutely 0 effort put forward. It was laughable honestly, then 3 months later, my organization said all those contracts were void because so many were leaving as nurses during the pandemic. No longer needed and the organization would not enforce the degree any longer to keep your job. Talk about a complete waste of 13k that absolutely did nothing to help my nursing career. Still have the same position, make a measly 2 dollars more an hour, and not anymore highly regarded than I was before I went to school.

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Now getting my BSN degree (Short for BULLSH** NURSING DEGREE) was a JOKE! Signed a contract when I was hired that I would obtain it within 5 years of hire. I waited 4 years and 6 months before going back to school. Talk about a governmental ponzi scheme! The schooling is all online. No matter where you go, it costs just under 13k. No matter where you go, private, small university, big university, all the same price. I NEVER read one word out of a text book, and I BS'd all my papers and gave it about as much effort as I do in fly fishing at this point... absolutely 0. Got through all of school during the heart of Covid and I booked myself 12 credit hours per semester because I wanted to be done so I could keep my job.

Heres my thoughts on why this all went down. Go back all the way to 2008 housing collapse, less people had children because money was tight and the market SUCKED! Those kids would be entering colleges around the time they started enforcing all nurses to get a BSN (up to a certain age). Colleges were already moaning and groaning on less attendance and lack of profit. So, a quick way to get money quick for colleges was to make nurses get a bachelors degree. And now you are getting this same funding from not only young kid college age, but populations in their 40's were also expected to obtain the degree. Created a lot of money for suffering colleges pretty darn quick.

What pissed me off more than anything in the world was I graduate, my "degree" comes in the mail. I threw it away because I wasn't even proud to have it because I graduated on the deans list with absolutely 0 effort put forward. It was laughable honestly, then 3 months later, my organization said all those contracts were void because so many were leaving as nurses during the pandemic. No longer needed and the organization would not enforce the degree any longer to keep your job. Talk about a complete waste of 13k that absolutely did nothing to help my nursing career. Still have the same position, make a measly 2 dollars more an hour, and not anymore highly regarded than I was before I went to school.





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Now getting my BSN degree (Short for BULLSH** NURSING DEGREE) was a JOKE! Signed a contract when I was hired that I would obtain it within 5 years of hire. I waited 4 years and 6 months before going back to school. Talk about a governmental ponzi scheme! The schooling is all online. No matter where you go, it costs just under 13k. No matter where you go, private, small university, big university, all the same price. I NEVER read one word out of a text book, and I BS'd all my papers and gave it about as much effort as I do in fly fishing at this point... absolutely 0. Got through all of school during the heart of Covid and I booked myself 12 credit hours per semester because I wanted to be done so I could keep my job.

Heres my thoughts on why this all went down. Go back all the way to 2008 housing collapse, less people had children because money was tight and the market SUCKED! Those kids would be entering colleges around the time they started enforcing all nurses to get a BSN (up to a certain age). Colleges were already moaning and groaning on less attendance and lack of profit. So, a quick way to get money quick for colleges was to make nurses get a bachelors degree. And now you are getting this same funding from not only young kid college age, but populations in their 40's were also expected to obtain the degree. Created a lot of money for suffering colleges pretty darn quick.

What pissed me off more than anything in the world was I graduate, my "degree" comes in the mail. I threw it away because I wasn't even proud to have it because I graduated on the deans list with absolutely 0 effort put forward. It was laughable honestly, then 3 months later, my organization said all those contracts were void because so many were leaving as nurses during the pandemic. No longer needed and the organization would not enforce the degree any longer to keep your job. Talk about a complete waste of 13k that absolutely did nothing to help my nursing career. Still have the same position, make a measly 2 dollars more an hour, and not anymore highly regarded than I was before I went to school.





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Originally Posted by flashman252
Now getting my BSN degree (Short for BULLSH** NURSING DEGREE) was a JOKE! Signed a contract when I was hired that I would obtain it within 5 years of hire. I waited 4 years and 6 months before going back to school. Talk about a governmental ponzi scheme! The schooling is all online. No matter where you go, it costs just under 13k. No matter where you go, private, small university, big university, all the same price. I NEVER read one word out of a text book, and I BS'd all my papers and gave it about as much effort as I do in fly fishing at this point... absolutely 0. Got through all of school during the heart of Covid and I booked myself 12 credit hours per semester because I wanted to be done so I could keep my job.

Heres my thoughts on why this all went down. Go back all the way to 2008 housing collapse, less people had children because money was tight and the market SUCKED! Those kids would be entering colleges around the time they started enforcing all nurses to get a BSN (up to a certain age). Colleges were already moaning and groaning on less attendance and lack of profit. So, a quick way to get money quick for colleges was to make nurses get a bachelors degree. And now you are getting this same funding from not only young kid college age, but populations in their 40's were also expected to obtain the degree. Created a lot of money for suffering colleges pretty darn quick.

What pissed me off more than anything in the world was I graduate, my "degree" comes in the mail. I threw it away because I wasn't even proud to have it because I graduated on the deans list with absolutely 0 effort put forward. It was laughable honestly, then 3 months later, my organization said all those contracts were void because so many were leaving as nurses during the pandemic. No longer needed and the organization would not enforce the degree any longer to keep your job. Talk about a complete waste of 13k that absolutely did nothing to help my nursing career. Still have the same position, make a measly 2 dollars more an hour, and not anymore highly regarded than I was before I went to school.


The reason the BSN thing came about was a study by the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation did a study that revealed BSN prepared nurses can communicate more effectively across multidisciplinary healthcare providers thus resulting in improved patient outcomes.

Most hospitals now only hire BSN nurses which is very prevalent here in Dallas. Most had a $3500-$5000 year tuition reimbursement plan.

It seems like your education was successful as you communicate conspiracy theories very well.

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