At least you didn't say, 6.0 Powerstroke. The 6.7 is desired. The 6.0, not so much.

As grasshopperglock says the old 5.9 will run forever. The only thing I have heard that may go bad is the that VP44 injection pump. And them babys ain't cheap. I'm getting a spare rebuilt Blue chip pump with zero computer hours on it to stash away before I retire. I can probably swing the head rebuild cost if it ever needs to be done. But at the rate I put miles on my Dodge I'll be long gone before it hits 200K...:)

That's what makes the Dodge and Cummins mix odd.

It's an industrial engine. The engine belongs on a huge irrigation pump.


When Mercedes owned Dodge. There was rumors of a Mercedes diesel replacing the Cummins. With some of the Mercedes diesel being outright crazy detuned.


The Cummins in a Dodge doesn't lose money.

Like I used to say when I was in the car business, there's an @ss for every seat.

Like I used to say when I was in the car business, there's an @ss for every seat


Nice to meet you. I started out selling Dodges.


At the time I was a dye in wool Ford fanboy.


Dodge customers..... No disrespect.... Special. The absolute complete opposite of Toyota customers.


Toyota customers buy at list. Tacoma on crack. Hoerunner? Had a bunch. Camry? You must be divorced or soon to get one. Let her pick the color so you can kiss that thing goodbye.

My dad literally had a car salesman tell him an expedition would tow a 5th wheel. Let's spare ourselves that wanker salesmen are somehow car experts. It's pathetic.

I wasn't your problem. It's the finance side that tore you up. Bank will buy the loan at 5%. The finance guy sells you at a two point mark up of 7%.


Money, money, money. Be a happy customer. Don't be so doom and gloom. Sign the paperwork.

I want a diesel for my next truck to pull the boat and possibly 5th Wheeler after retirement. Don’t want to pay the more per gallon for the diesel. Stuck between either another F150 Supercrew or a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel.

Depends on the size of the 5th wheel. 3/4 ton long bed will pull lighter stuff. One ton, extra tires and big 5th wheel.



Judging by a cattle trailer or horse trailer. I need the exact weight to match to what you need.


Boat? Biggest boat on a local Texas lake? 1/2 ton all day long. The boat doesn't weigh that much.

Service trucks are trying out the Ford 7.3 gas engines and I said the hell with that… 19,5 rolling down the road, there’s no way it does better than the 6.7

Used to think I wanted a diesel... especially after having many friends with them and listening to their praise, mpg, towing capability, etc.. then it would have some catastrophic failure out of warranty and they were going broke trying to find money to have it fixed they were singing a different tune.

Bought a 2020 F250 w/6.2 and it pulls the boat just fine, and hopefully will get a TT in the next couple of years for wife and I to do some traveling. Since I work from home and have been for 20 years the numbers never really added up to have one and only drive it once a week to go fishing, etc.

My VP44 quit a block from Steve's Prop Shop years ago with 120k miles on the truck.

Industrial Injection used to build the best VP44. The problem with the pump was not the pump itself. It was the controller electronics that was mounted on a board next to the pump. I could get too hot and fail.
I don't remember who but UPS or FedEx solved the problem by insulating the circuit and everyone else followed suit when selling replacement injection pumps.

Another common failure was the low pressure, lift, pump. Made by Carter in the early versions and in its last year before they switched to the common rail and electronic injectors Dodge moved the lift pump from the side of the engine just behind the fuel filter to inside the fuel tank. After that when replacing the pump dealers commonly changed from the one pump to the in tank pump.

Also, about 1/5 of the pre 2001 blocks were the dreaded "53" block. About 1 in 10 could crack and need a new block or block repair. They came up with a "stitch" repair that fixed the block rather than replacing it. It was a combination of drilling holes and using bolts and a resin to fix it.
Mine is a 53 which never experienced that problem. They were known to show up by 50k miles.


My truck has the 5 speed manual because it was easier shifting than their 6 speed. By 1999-2000 the 5 speed had been upgraded from the original 5 speed the older Dodges came with. The old 5 speeds had a problem losing the 5th gear nut.
The original NV4500 was upgraded to the NV4500D which my truck has.

The 7.3, 6.0. 6.4 are all International school bus engines- none of them were as reliable as the current 6.7 Ford built motor.

1. Diesel stinks.
2. That's enough

The 6.4 was Fords replacement for the earlier Navistar. It was built by Ford and had so many problems they discontinued it after just a couple years.
Before Navistar Ford used a couple international Harvester engines, the 6.9idi and 7.3idi.



I know the 6.0 and 7.3 were also built as a commercial engine but their electronics and setup was much different than the Ford engines. In general they were lower rpm and higher torque.

The 5.9 Cummins was built to be a tractor motor but when they did not use it for that purpose it was offered as a truck engine. Ford was offered it before Dodge but they declined.