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Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: Razorback] #14592324 01/10/23 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Razorback
Among the people who have reported seeing mountain lions, who has said anything about a "breeding population"? Why is the subject being changed from random mountain lion sightings to whether there are thriving populations?


Obviously not a large concentration of cats in East Texas. From what I've read known breeding populations are in South Texas, Big Bend, Davis Mountains and into SW Hill Country. The S. Tx population is in decline and has a problem with genetic diversity. This info is postulated because of studies via trapping and radio collaring.

There's everything that cougars need in East Texas with an abundance of prey and plenty of good cover.


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Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: RayBob] #14592374 01/10/23 11:55 AM
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Van Zandt county . . . same pic as the link in the Tyler pic above. Not sure where Van Zandt County is but looks like East Texas vs areas west of I-35. Someone should tell this cat to go back west of I-35.


I've seen this picture hundreds of times. It's already been posted on here's. It was investigated and debunked. It was photo shopped.

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: uncle_bagster] #14592419 01/10/23 01:10 PM
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Did they ever find out what killed that man down in Lipan?

https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/mountain-lion-christopher-whiteley/

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: Dubee] #14592420 01/10/23 01:12 PM
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Van Zandt county . . . same pic as the link in the Tyler pic above. Not sure where Van Zandt County is but looks like East Texas vs areas west of I-35. Someone should tell this cat to go back west of I-35.


I've seen this picture hundreds of times. It's already been posted on here's. It was investigated and debunked. It was photo shopped.


Documentation or it is fake claims. Documentation seems to be your gold standard.


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Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: uncle_bagster] #14592448 01/10/23 01:46 PM
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Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: uncle_bagster] #14592450 01/10/23 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by uncle_bagster
Did they ever find out what killed that man down in Lipan?

https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/mountain-lion-christopher-whiteley/


Official cause of death was just an animal. TP&W and the USDA found zero evidence of a Mt lion.

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: RayBob] #14592513 01/10/23 02:36 PM
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Van Zandt county . . . same pic as the link in the Tyler pic above. Not sure where Van Zandt County is but looks like East Texas vs areas west of I-35. Someone should tell this cat to go back west of I-35.


I've seen this picture hundreds of times. It's already been posted on here's. It was investigated and debunked. It was photo shopped.


Documentation or it is fake claims. Documentation seems to be your gold standard.


I have no idea where to find "official documentation" because it's a fake photo. It was discussed in a group I'm in. TP&W biologist said it was a fake. You can look at the TP&W map and there are no confirmed sightings in the last ten years in that county. Obviously if it was a real photo it would show up on the map

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: Dubee] #14592537 01/10/23 02:55 PM
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You can look at the TP&W map and there are no confirmed sightings in the last ten years in that county. Obviously if it was a real photo it would show up on the map


You can also look at the TP&W map and see that there have been confirmed sightings in Wood County, where I saw a mountain lion in broad daylight near the bank at Lake Holbrook. I didn't see his family and I am not claiming there was a breeding population, so there is no need to go down that road again. I saw a lone mountain lion.

Mountain lions have been confirmed in multiple East Texas counties. I'm not sure why it is so important to argue that they are not there.

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: RayBob] #14592599 01/10/23 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RayBob
Mountain lions killed in Texas 1983 -2005 (counties per TPWD):



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Not sure if there are pics of those in East Texas as according to some they don't occur there. Not sure how those counties reported phantom lion deaths.



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That map is not accurate. I know of one that was killed in Burnet County and one in Llano Cnty during that time frame.

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: Razorback] #14592607 01/10/23 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Razorback
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You can look at the TP&W map and there are no confirmed sightings in the last ten years in that county. Obviously if it was a real photo it would show up on the map


You can also look at the TP&W map and see that there have been confirmed sightings in Wood County, where I saw a mountain lion in broad daylight near the bank at Lake Holbrook. I didn't see his family and I am not claiming there was a breeding population, so there is no need to go down that road again. I saw a lone mountain lion.

Mountain lions have been confirmed in multiple East Texas counties. I'm not sure why it is so important to argue that they are not there.

Actually the map doesn't show any confirmed sightings in wood county

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You can look at the TP&W map and there are no confirmed sightings in the last ten years in that county. Obviously if it was a real photo it would show up on the map


You can also look at the TP&W map and see that there have been confirmed sightings in Wood County, where I saw a mountain lion in broad daylight near the bank at Lake Holbrook. I didn't see his family and I am not claiming there was a breeding population, so there is no need to go down that road again. I saw a lone mountain lion.

Mountain lions have been confirmed in multiple East Texas counties. I'm not sure why it is so important to argue that they are not there.

Actually the map doesn't show any confirmed sightings in wood county


Look again. What is the county right above Smith, the one with a blue dot in the middle of it?

Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: Dubee] #14592636 01/10/23 03:55 PM
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Van Zandt county . . . same pic as the link in the Tyler pic above. Not sure where Van Zandt County is but looks like East Texas vs areas west of I-35. Someone should tell this cat to go back west of I-35.


I've seen this picture hundreds of times. It's already been posted on here's. It was investigated and debunked. It was photo shopped.


Documentation or it is fake claims. Documentation seems to be your gold standard.


I have no idea where to find "official documentation" because it's a fake photo. It was discussed in a group I'm in. TP&W biologist said it was a fake. You can look at the TP&W map and there are no confirmed sightings in the last ten years in that county. Obviously if it was a real photo it would show up on the map


Well, you as the foremost authority and only one in the OT that can be right I'll again defer to your omniscience. I'll also defer to TPWD as they are always correct and current and forthcoming with all their info on wild felines in Texas.

Carry on !


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Re: OK mt. lion caught on trail camera [Re: Razorback] #14592652 01/10/23 04:11 PM
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You can look at the TP&W map and there are no confirmed sightings in the last ten years in that county. Obviously if it was a real photo it would show up on the map


You can also look at the TP&W map and see that there have been confirmed sightings in Wood County, where I saw a mountain lion in broad daylight near the bank at Lake Holbrook. I didn't see his family and I am not claiming there was a breeding population, so there is no need to go down that road again. I saw a lone mountain lion.

Mountain lions have been confirmed in multiple East Texas counties. I'm not sure why it is so important to argue that they are not there.

Actually the map doesn't show any confirmed sightings in wood county


Look again. What is the county right above Smith, the one with a blue dot in the middle of it?

You could be correct. I can't see exactly what county that is. I wasn't looking at that map. I was referring to the confirmed sightings map from TP&W. I'm not familiar with the map with the dots

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