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Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Basskicker907] #14589562 01/08/23 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Basskicker907
Originally Posted by E8C-ENG
Originally Posted by MagFluker
Another Centex lake goes down the way of the dodo. They killed Austin, turned into a mudhole, right in it's prime.

Canyon has never really had a prime!

I love fishing it though.

Easy to navigate? I drive down to choke instead of dealing with canyon.

Yes. Way easier than Choke.

I fished my first ever Bass Tournament there in high school with a buddy and his dad. I won and have been hooked ever since. Don’t expect to catch much but it’s truly not as bad as everybody says.

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Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Jaredk] #14589851 01/08/23 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by E8C-ENG
Originally Posted by MagFluker
Another Centex lake goes down the way of the dodo. They killed Austin, turned into a mudhole, right in it's prime.

Canyon has never really had a prime!

I love fishing it though.


The Hydrilla would make it really good, kicked out some good bags in TTZ tourney's that were there a while back, when I lived in Austin

Was tough, but fun if they got in the bushes.


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Originally Posted by MagFluker
Originally Posted by E8C-ENG
Originally Posted by MagFluker
Another Centex lake goes down the way of the dodo. They killed Austin, turned into a mudhole, right in it's prime.

Canyon has never really had a prime!

I love fishing it though.


The Hydrilla would make it really good, kicked out some good bags in TTZ tourney's that were there a while back, when I lived in Austin

Was tough, but fun if they got in the bushes.


I’d love to see what somebody like Josh Jones could pull out of there with FFS

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Jaredk] #14590589 01/09/23 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by E8C-ENG
Originally Posted by MagFluker
Originally Posted by E8C-ENG
Originally Posted by MagFluker
Another Centex lake goes down the way of the dodo. They killed Austin, turned into a mudhole, right in it's prime.

Canyon has never really had a prime!

I love fishing it though.


The Hydrilla would make it really good, kicked out some good bags in TTZ tourney's that were there a while back, when I lived in Austin

Was tough, but fun if they got in the bushes.


I’d love to see what somebody like Josh Jones could pull out of there with FFS


Probably catch some big ole Stripers.

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Chad Miller] #14591438 01/09/23 07:08 PM
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Now fellas.. Let's not be bashing TPWD. Stop talking about getting "organized".

Don't look behind the curtain. Just concentrate on the bright shiny thing.
Let's all say it together: "SHARE LUNKER! SHARE LUNKER!"

knuckle heads.

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: flippinskeeter] #14593805 01/11/23 05:54 PM
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Come on now Lee, it’s “their” lake and the hydrilla is killing swimmers, birds and fish. It’s taken over the entire lake, can’t boat or fish, due to how thick it is. (All junk they say)


That's it in a nutshell - the folks that are against the grass are organized, making a big stink and have been doing so for the last couple years. This is a situation where anglers need to get together and get loud if they want to make their feelings heard, because right now the momentum is swinging the other way. If you live in the area, or if you want to share your concerns, contact these local authorities who are even now weighing in on the situation.


Water Oriented Recreation District (WORD) of Comal County
https://wordcc.com/
830-907-2300
info@wordcc.com

Corps of Engineers for Canyon Lake
www.swf-wc.usace.army.mil
(830) 964-3341

Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority (GBRA)
https://www.gbra.org/
830-379-5822

Local Representatives
Senator Campbell
https://www.senate.texas.gov/member.php?d=25
(830) 626-0065
(512) 463-0125





Here’s a form email that any of you can copy in paste in emails to the above. Please do so to prevent us losing grass in another lake.

Dear Sirs/Maam,

It has been brought to my attention that a small but vocal group of homeowners are advocating for the release of a large amount of noxious chemicals in close proximity to a major water intake on Canyon Lake to eradicate an aquatic plant. In their attempt to Stop Hydrilla on Canyon Lake, these individuals have either in ignorance or with intention spread false information and fear about hydrilla and its presence in the reservoir.

They claim the entire lake is “infested.” This simply is not true. According to a recent aquatic vegetation survey by Texas Parks and Wildlife, hydrilla covers roughly one tenth of the lake. These residents cite terrifying studies conducted on shallow ponds and tiny lakes, stating that the plant will consume the entire body of water, restrict water flow, reduce oxygen in the water column, and destroy the ecosystem. These studies are false equivalents when you consider the deep, steep, and rocky nature of Canyon. They claim once the plant is established, the only control is human intervention. Cold weather and a flood all but eliminated hydrilla from Toledo Bend. Finally these residents claim putting herbicide in our water supply is safe… given their track record of misinformation, forgive me for not taking their word for it.

The fact of the matter is a few residents don’t like the aesthetic of aquatic grasses in “their lake,” they don’t want “icky” grass around their ankles when they swim, and they’re willing to do whatever it takes to eradicate the perceived nuisance.

No aquatic plant is enough of a threat to justify the risk presented by adding herbicides in such close proximity to the source of drinking water for thousands of Texans and I’m sure as this issue becomes more widely publicized, consumers of water from Canyon Lake will agree.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.[/quote]


It would make sense to let the local authorities know all our perspectives, but note that the homeowners are no longer keen on using chemicals and are pushing for using grass carp instead. Also, might want to see TPWD's position paper on hydrilla https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/water/environconcerns/nuisance_plants/hydrilla_management.phtml

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Chad Miller] #14593975 01/11/23 08:22 PM
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Bass fishermen I thought were organized ever since the seventies.
It was called Metropolitan League of Bass Clubs.
I looked it up and they still exist, and they were supposed to be the voice of the bass fishermen, as an organized group to voice concerns that came up when it came to these sort of issues.
I looked at their facebook page and they seem to be concerned about tournaments more than getting into the politics.

https://www.facebook.com/brenda.metrobassclub/


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Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Jimbo] #14593994 01/11/23 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
Bass fishermen I thought were organized ever since the seventies.
It was called Metropolitan League of Bass Clubs.
I looked it up and they still exist, and they were supposed to be the voice of the bass fishermen, as an organized group to voice concerns that came up when it came to these sort of issues.
I looked at their facebook page and they seem to be concerned about tournaments more than getting into the politics.

https://www.facebook.com/brenda.metrobassclub/


Yep they are still around but not so much on the "voice" side of things. They handle the oraganiztion of the city's bass club championship not to much more than that from what I've been part of over the years.

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Will.i.am] #14594362 01/12/23 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Will.i.am
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Bass fishermen I thought were organized ever since the seventies.
It was called Metropolitan League of Bass Clubs.
I looked it up and they still exist, and they were supposed to be the voice of the bass fishermen, as an organized group to voice concerns that came up when it came to these sort of issues.
I looked at their facebook page and they seem to be concerned about tournaments more than getting into the politics.

https://www.facebook.com/brenda.metrobassclub/


Yep they are still around but not so much on the "voice" side of things. They handle the oraganiztion of the city's bass club championship not to much more than that from what I've been part of over the years.


Surely the bass fishermen outnumber those few residents that seem to make more noise, but I guess they'll be sitting around the boat launch in the near future talking about how great the fishing used to be when the lake had grass in it, or they can join the wake board crowd.


Just one more cast!

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Jimbo] #14594384 01/12/23 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo

Surely the bass fishermen outnumber those few residents that seem to make more noise, but I guess they'll be sitting around the boat launch in the near future talking about how great the fishing used to be when the lake had grass in it, or they can join the wake board crowd.



I don’t think that is the case. This is similar to the whole “woke” movement, those guys cry and scream about everything and the rest of us just roll our eyes and move on with life.

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Will.i.am] #14594412 01/12/23 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Will.i.am
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Bass fishermen I thought were organized ever since the seventies.
It was called Metropolitan League of Bass Clubs.
I looked it up and they still exist, and they were supposed to be the voice of the bass fishermen, as an organized group to voice concerns that came up when it came to these sort of issues.
I looked at their facebook page and they seem to be concerned about tournaments more than getting into the politics.

https://www.facebook.com/brenda.metrobassclub/


Yep they are still around but not so much on the "voice" side of things. They handle the oraganiztion of the city's bass club championship not to much more than that from what I've been part of over the years.


I’m still gathering info on the most productive path for this fight and plan on reaching out to metro to get the other clubs involved. Also going to reach out to the couple of money trails that fish the lake and hopefully they’ll get involved in the fight.

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Surely the bass fishermen outnumber those few residents that seem to make more noise, but I guess they'll be sitting around the boat launch in the near future talking about how great the fishing used to be when the lake had grass in it, or they can join the wake board crowd.



I don’t think that is the case. This is similar to the whole “woke” movement, those guys cry and scream about everything and the rest of us just roll our eyes and move on with life.


Wokeness and complacency is a bad combination, and one reason being woke has taken off as it has!


Just one more cast!

Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: 786] #14595147 01/12/23 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Salt396
Come on now Lee, it’s “their” lake and the hydrilla is killing swimmers, birds and fish. It’s taken over the entire lake, can’t boat or fish, due to how thick it is. (All junk they say)


That's it in a nutshell - the folks that are against the grass are organized, making a big stink and have been doing so for the last couple years. This is a situation where anglers need to get together and get loud if they want to make their feelings heard, because right now the momentum is swinging the other way. If you live in the area, or if you want to share your concerns, contact these local authorities who are even now weighing in on the situation.


Water Oriented Recreation District (WORD) of Comal County
https://wordcc.com/
830-907-2300
info@wordcc.com

Corps of Engineers for Canyon Lake
www.swf-wc.usace.army.mil
(830) 964-3341

Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority (GBRA)
https://www.gbra.org/
830-379-5822

Local Representatives
Senator Campbell
https://www.senate.texas.gov/member.php?d=25
(830) 626-0065
(512) 463-0125




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It would make sense to let the local authorities know all our perspectives, but note that the homeowners are no longer keen on using chemicals and are pushing for using grass carp instead. Also, might want to see TPWD's position paper on hydrilla https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/water/environconcerns/nuisance_plants/hydrilla_management.phtml [/quote]

You are correct. Just learned that this morning. The end hydrilla on Canyon website pushes for spraying the grass, but they've shifted to pushing for carp. The paper you posted represents a significant shift in TPWD's public stance towards hydrilla and is huge for anglers. I am optimistic that local authorities (Local Corp leadership, state reps, TPWD) will only act if these homeowners voice is left unchecked so we need to make our voices heard.

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Re: Canyon lake grass threatened [Re: Chad Miller] #14601694 01/19/23 03:21 AM
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I talked with one of the locals that lives on the lake and is in the middle of all of this. He mentioned everything that is mentioned in this post. The b******g and complaining is coming from the wake boarders but he said that the grass and hydrilla is there to stay. He said that Canyon Lake water is drinking water and they will NOT be spraying anything into the water. Now, is what he said was true? I don't know, but he was pretty sure of himself and I pray to God that is right.


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Originally Posted by Topwater2
I talked with one of the locals that lives on the lake and is in the middle of all of this. He mentioned everything that is mentioned in this post. The b******g and complaining is coming from the wake boarders but he said that the grass and hydrilla is there to stay. He said that Canyon Lake water is drinking water and they will NOT be spraying anything into the water. Now, is what he said was true? I don't know, but he was pretty sure of himself and I pray to God that is right.

I will tell you whats weird, how come its bad to spray grass in lakes for drinking water but its ok on other lakes? If its bad, its bad period. We all should be standing together to end the spraying completely.

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