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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: b00stin4]
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09/14/22 07:42 PM
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hopalong
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maybe it was another tournament, would have sworn they all wanted liability.
I wouldn't fish without it these days anyway.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: b00stin4]
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09/14/22 07:43 PM
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rickys
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From what I have heard Trey thought he had $300k. That's what he asked for when he purchased the policy. Pretty sure his agent made a mistake and he didn't read the details of his policy. I'm also guilty of that a lot. I just tell them what I want, pay, and move on. Just need to be more observant these days. He definitely learned a tough lesson. I feel terrible for the young guy.
Last edited by rickys; 09/14/22 07:43 PM.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: b00stin4]
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09/14/22 09:49 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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He probably didn't know he was short on insurance until they checked him the way it sounds. Honest mistake but a costly one. I've got my policy through Travelers and I can look at my coverage anytime I want on their app. Every bass boat I've ever owned has been insured at tournament requirements. If you run the hours a pro tournament fisherman does it's not if but when something is going to happen. Never fished above club level until the past two years and fished as a non boater/amatuer. The guys I've riden with made me wonder if I was going to get back to the weigh in alive or in a body bag. I can understand strict enforcement just from that view point.
Last edited by ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50); 09/14/22 09:50 PM.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: b00stin4]
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09/14/22 10:59 PM
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emorydog
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Just saw an article where Bassmaster crapped the bed in at the recent Open with the minimum insurance requirement. Apparently nobody checks this requirement except 2 daily out of over 150 anglers, and apparently has done this weak check of compliance at each tournament like that for who knows how long. That is what happens when you try to make fishing into more than what it is. Anglers have been fishing The Opens for years and should have known, and Bassmaster should have made sure their rules weren't being violated regardless of the state they were going to. This is what happens when you get a bunch of yutubers checking in anglers at registration, and nobody checking to see if they are doing the job right. Used to have to provide fishing license and insurance AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE AT EVERY EVENT prior to onsite registration to avoid such an important rule violation. Some doofus likely decided that they could save $50 and not pay someone to check the insurance requirement the day prior to competition. Bozo factor of 10...they been on a downhill slide for a while. They have someone else in the boat with them and crazy not to prove coverage on every boat every tournament. I think this just further solidifies the mess that is BASS
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: hopalong]
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09/14/22 11:00 PM
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texasfisherman1
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It's not that hard to read the rules. I carry them in the boat every time, you? For any bigger tournaments, I have them on my phone.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: texasfisherman1]
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09/15/22 12:10 AM
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n_fish
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If you finish in the top 5 at any given HS derby, a boat check is required. Your proof of insurance will be checked and it must read 300K on the policy copy or whatever your providing as proof. Failure to do so means a DQ.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: b00stin4]
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09/15/22 12:41 PM
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GMTK
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Does Trey now get DQd from all the other opens he fished?
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: GMTK]
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09/15/22 01:08 PM
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Dubee
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Does Trey now get DQd from all the other opens he fished? No, why would he?
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: Dubee]
#14478290
09/15/22 01:59 PM
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Txduckhunter
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Does Trey now get DQd from all the other opens he fished? No, why would he? Argument could be made that if he wasn't insurance compliant at this event them he was/could have not been in compliance at previous events - which would have made him ineligible to fish or guilty of rule violation. I'm sure nothing will become of this due to the can of worms it would open. I also don't think this was by design, it was simply a mistake that he didn't catch.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: barryfish]
#14478395
09/15/22 03:22 PM
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DillonCan'tFish
Extreme Angler
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Makes you wonder if someone overheard him talking about not having that coverage and they then snitched on him According to Gerald Swindle, at the Opens tournaments, rather than checking all participant's coverage amounts before the tournament, they only check the first few boats in the launch order each day. I am guessing he did not launch near the front the first two days, but when he launched on day 3, he happened to be at the front of the line and got checked. Hard lesson to learn since he was doing so well, but I am glad this wasn't another DQ story about someone trying to intentionally gain an unfair advantage. Just a stupid mistake that I bet he won't ever make again.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: emorydog]
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09/15/22 03:25 PM
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GeoFisher
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Just saw an article where Bassmaster crapped the bed in at the recent Open with the minimum insurance requirement. Apparently nobody checks this requirement except 2 daily out of over 150 anglers, and apparently has done this weak check of compliance at each tournament like that for who knows how long. That is what happens when you try to make fishing into more than what it is. Anglers have been fishing The Opens for years and should have known, and Bassmaster should have made sure their rules weren't being violated regardless of the state they were going to. This is what happens when you get a bunch of yutubers checking in anglers at registration, and nobody checking to see if they are doing the job right. Used to have to provide fishing license and insurance AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE AT EVERY EVENT prior to onsite registration to avoid such an important rule violation. Some doofus likely decided that they could save $50 and not pay someone to check the insurance requirement the day prior to competition. Bozo factor of 10...they been on a downhill slide for a while. They have someone else in the boat with them and crazy not to prove coverage on every boat every tournament. I think this just further solidifies the mess that is BASS I don't have a dog in this fight and am no means a BASS apologist, but I don't think BASS was doing anything any different than most tournament organizations here. To check everything that needs to be checked prior to a tournament takes man power. Man power costs money and then ya have another thread with folks griping about tourney payout's. While were at it, do we need to check SS #'s and ID's to make sure they are who they say they are? Are they legal citizens? Passport up to date? What about age restrictions? Do we want to check a birth certificate too? How about criminal records? We don't want a camera man or co angler in the boat with a felon right? I mean, where does it end? Sort of like polygraphs.....ya cant poly everyone!! So you do the best you can by choosing a few and keeping people as honest as possible, just like they do with insurance. I see your argument, but it lacks feasibility in my opinion.
Everything on your bass boat is broken......You just don't know it yet.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: GeoFisher]
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09/15/22 03:27 PM
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Mark Perry
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Just saw an article where Bassmaster crapped the bed in at the recent Open with the minimum insurance requirement. Apparently nobody checks this requirement except 2 daily out of over 150 anglers, and apparently has done this weak check of compliance at each tournament like that for who knows how long. That is what happens when you try to make fishing into more than what it is. Anglers have been fishing The Opens for years and should have known, and Bassmaster should have made sure their rules weren't being violated regardless of the state they were going to. This is what happens when you get a bunch of yutubers checking in anglers at registration, and nobody checking to see if they are doing the job right. Used to have to provide fishing license and insurance AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE AT EVERY EVENT prior to onsite registration to avoid such an important rule violation. Some doofus likely decided that they could save $50 and not pay someone to check the insurance requirement the day prior to competition. Bozo factor of 10...they been on a downhill slide for a while. They have someone else in the boat with them and crazy not to prove coverage on every boat every tournament. I think this just further solidifies the mess that is BASS I don't have a dog in this fight and am no means a BASS apologist, but I don't think BASS was doing anything any different than most tournament organizations here. To check everything that needs to be checked prior to a tournament takes man power. Man power costs money and then ya have another thread with folks griping about tourney payout's. While were at it, do we need to check SS #'s and ID's to make sure they are who they say they are? Are they legal citizens? Passport up to date? What about age restrictions? Do we want to check a birth certificate too? How about criminal records? We don't want a camera man or co angler in the boat with a felon right? I mean, where does it end? Sort of like polygraphs.....ya cant poly everyone!! So you do the best you can by choosing a few and keeping people as honest as possible, just like they do with insurance. I see your argument, but it lacks feasibility in my opinion. From the way the BPT/MLF rules read they don't check everyone either. It just has to be in the boat upon request.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: Mark Perry]
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09/15/22 03:36 PM
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GeoFisher
Extreme Angler
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Just saw an article where Bassmaster crapped the bed in at the recent Open with the minimum insurance requirement. Apparently nobody checks this requirement except 2 daily out of over 150 anglers, and apparently has done this weak check of compliance at each tournament like that for who knows how long. That is what happens when you try to make fishing into more than what it is. Anglers have been fishing The Opens for years and should have known, and Bassmaster should have made sure their rules weren't being violated regardless of the state they were going to. This is what happens when you get a bunch of yutubers checking in anglers at registration, and nobody checking to see if they are doing the job right. Used to have to provide fishing license and insurance AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE AT EVERY EVENT prior to onsite registration to avoid such an important rule violation. Some doofus likely decided that they could save $50 and not pay someone to check the insurance requirement the day prior to competition. Bozo factor of 10...they been on a downhill slide for a while. They have someone else in the boat with them and crazy not to prove coverage on every boat every tournament. I think this just further solidifies the mess that is BASS I don't have a dog in this fight and am no means a BASS apologist, but I don't think BASS was doing anything any different than most tournament organizations here. To check everything that needs to be checked prior to a tournament takes man power. Man power costs money and then ya have another thread with folks griping about tourney payout's. While were at it, do we need to check SS #'s and ID's to make sure they are who they say they are? Are they legal citizens? Passport up to date? What about age restrictions? Do we want to check a birth certificate too? How about criminal records? We don't want a camera man or co angler in the boat with a felon right? I mean, where does it end? Sort of like polygraphs.....ya cant poly everyone!! So you do the best you can by choosing a few and keeping people as honest as possible, just like they do with insurance. I see your argument, but it lacks feasibility in my opinion. From the way the BPT/MLF rules read they don't check everyone either. It just has to be in the boat upon request. As it should be...just as if a traffic cop would do the same at a traffic stop.
Everything on your bass boat is broken......You just don't know it yet.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: Txduckhunter]
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09/15/22 04:13 PM
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BillS2006
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Does Trey now get DQd from all the other opens he fished? No, why would he? Argument could be made that if he wasn't insurance compliant at this event them he was/could have not been in compliance at previous events - which would have made him ineligible to fish or guilty of rule violation. I'm sure nothing will become of this due to the can of worms it would open. I also don't think this was by design, it was simply a mistake that he didn't catch. That would be like getting a speeding ticket and the cop writing you another ticket because if you were speeding today, you must have been speeding last week.
Transgenders: God made them, the devil changed their minds.
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Re: Trey Swindle DQ
[Re: BillS2006]
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09/15/22 04:15 PM
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GeoFisher
Extreme Angler
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Does Trey now get DQd from all the other opens he fished? No, why would he? Argument could be made that if he wasn't insurance compliant at this event them he was/could have not been in compliance at previous events - which would have made him ineligible to fish or guilty of rule violation. I'm sure nothing will become of this due to the can of worms it would open. I also don't think this was by design, it was simply a mistake that he didn't catch. That would be like getting a speeding ticket and the cop writing you another ticket because if you were speeding today, you must have been speeding last week. Great Observation
Everything on your bass boat is broken......You just don't know it yet.
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