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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/01/22 01:57 PM
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Grass or no grass, Lake Conroe is still Jurassic Park under the water. In all Species fish just grow bigger there, but yes more grass x100. If you have never caught a 10lb bass and its on your bucket list. Conroe is the place (dec.-april)
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/01/22 06:45 PM
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Monty Wright
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/01/22 06:52 PM
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Beautiful, naturally filtered water. Looks like its growing out to about six feet. Oh, the horror.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/01/22 09:29 PM
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This is the one thing I'd love to see happen at Fork as soon as it is full is a hydrilla growth for the whole lake. Last year when I started fishing it it just seemed like it wasn't as clear as it was in the 90's and with it down it just seems more muddy. I guess all the development that has taken place of the last couple of decades has it not as clear as it used to be.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/01/22 11:30 PM
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Thats ^^^^ the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. Heck, that’s porn!
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/03/22 03:08 AM
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If they are only adding 2000 carp, I would not be too worried. If they were recommending putting in 30,000 in a 2 year period like they did on Lake Austin, I would would be at every meeting and showing them various articles of what they did to Lake Austin. Now there is only a few spots where they put up cages for vegetation to grow. It's a mud hole with all the wake boats. 99% due to the neighborhood named Friends of lake Austin, FOLA. Yep that's the million dollar home owners. Follow the money. They screamed and TPWD bowed to their wishes like servants to the king. Sorry, but that's my honest opinion. Here's one article back in 2015 when there still was about 5% of vegetation in the lake. https://www.kxan.com/news/carp-help-destroy-underwater-plants-in-lake-austin/and another link where the city wants them gone. https://www.kut.org/austin/2016-09-...lake-austin-now-the-city-wants-them-gone Back when it had vegetation if I caught a couple 5 lbers is was a boring day. A better day was a 7 and couple 8's. An exceptional day was a 9 or double digit up to 13. Now big fish are no longer caught at all.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/11/22 07:34 PM
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Ken Smith has an excellent series on YT with the head of veg control at TPWD. He said they cannot allow hydrilla in Conroe due to the homeowner's lack of access to their boathouses.
Tony
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/11/22 07:53 PM
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If you watched Ken Smith's interview with the guy who is over managing these lakes you heard him say that TPWD will never allow Conroe to have grass again. The SJRA has always followed the money of the LCA. Therefore, a fight for trying to maintain vegetation in Lake Conroe is a fight against TPWD, SJRA, and the LCA. Government will always follow the money and the only way anglers have a chance of maintaining any grass in Conroe (even native grass) is to come up with more money than the LCA. The other problem is the LCA people are also the wealthy ones contributing to the local politicians. Therefore, the fishermen will also have to buy the politicians from the LCA. If you want to know why things happen, just follow the money.
There has already been 1000 grass carp stocked in the lake in recent years. Now they want to put 2000 more in. This is all to control 200 acres. Even if the first 1000 had died that is still only .1 of an acre per carp. If you have ever sat on a lake and watched these carp as they eat vegetation you know they can each consume .1 acres in a day. They know that they can control the hydrilla with chemicals but will refuse to because the LCA people (the money) will cry and moan until every stitch of vegetation is gone and carp is the way to do that. Everything is simply controlled by the built in corruption of the way our government entities are set up and ran.
As anglers, my belief is we can pretty much write off Conroe in regards to it ever being a good bass lake for any more than a couple of years every 20 years. This is a vicious cycle from these organizations that has been a re-occurring cycle for the last 40 years. The first time they went to stock grass carp into the lake the bass clubs organized and fought it. In the end they lost, but they did tie it up in court for a few years keeping the carp stockings from happening during that time. It was a fair amount of money spent to add an extra year or two of good fishing before they wiped out the lake. The only way to fight money is with money. Do any of you actually think that fishermen would ever band together enough to fight the big money lake front property owners by raising enough money to compete with them? It’s pretty much always a good bass lake. Follow the tournament weights. Not easy to fish but for a five fish stringer it’s always pretty solid. It can be awesome when the grass is right.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/11/22 09:18 PM
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Gets kinda confusing when TPWD is involved in the eradication of hydrilla. A water board that owns/manages a lake is completely different. I understand the correlation when hydrilla is defined as an “invasive species” and boating, waterskiing… is defined as “recreation” but this “answering to the deepest pockets” is wrong. The TPWD are civil servants paid by the tax paying public of Texas and per their mission statement should study what benefits all Texas sportsman the most. This “invasive species” umbrella to justify total eradication of non-indigenous species(plant, animal…) is also wrong. We could use the argument that Florida strain largemouth bass, hybrids, stripers……should all be eradicated from State waters as all are not naturally occurring here.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/12/22 02:32 PM
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Dean Coleman
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Conroe not a good bass lake? Crazy talk…on any weekend during the season the weights will be heavier than Rayburn with a third of the field size. Can you go out and just flail around and expect to catch ‘em? No…it’s not Fayette County.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
[Re: Fishspanker]
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09/12/22 05:47 PM
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If you watched Ken Smith's interview with the guy who is over managing these lakes you heard him say that TPWD will never allow Conroe to have grass again. The SJRA has always followed the money of the LCA. Therefore, a fight for trying to maintain vegetation in Lake Conroe is a fight against TPWD, SJRA, and the LCA. Government will always follow the money and the only way anglers have a chance of maintaining any grass in Conroe (even native grass) is to come up with more money than the LCA. The other problem is the LCA people are also the wealthy ones contributing to the local politicians. Therefore, the fishermen will also have to buy the politicians from the LCA. If you want to know why things happen, just follow the money.
There has already been 1000 grass carp stocked in the lake in recent years. Now they want to put 2000 more in. This is all to control 200 acres. Even if the first 1000 had died that is still only .1 of an acre per carp. If you have ever sat on a lake and watched these carp as they eat vegetation you know they can each consume .1 acres in a day. They know that they can control the hydrilla with chemicals but will refuse to because the LCA people (the money) will cry and moan until every stitch of vegetation is gone and carp is the way to do that. Everything is simply controlled by the built in corruption of the way our government entities are set up and ran.
As anglers, my belief is we can pretty much write off Conroe in regards to it ever being a good bass lake for any more than a couple of years every 20 years. This is a vicious cycle from these organizations that has been a re-occurring cycle for the last 40 years. The first time they went to stock grass carp into the lake the bass clubs organized and fought it. In the end they lost, but they did tie it up in court for a few years keeping the carp stockings from happening during that time. It was a fair amount of money spent to add an extra year or two of good fishing before they wiped out the lake. The only way to fight money is with money. Do any of you actually think that fishermen would ever band together enough to fight the big money lake front property owners by raising enough money to compete with them? It’s pretty much always a good bass lake. Follow the tournament weights. Not easy to fish but for a five fish stringer it’s always pretty solid. It can be awesome when the grass is right. It has always had big bass and grass or no grass someone in a tournament will catch them. I don't even fish Conroe that much and have weighed numerous 20 to 26 lb stringers over the years while there was not grass in it. Most of those were in the summer. That doesn't make it a "good" bass lake. There is really only a handful of guys that catch them consistently in the tournaments. Those are the guys that stay on the lake all the time. There are many days that Lake Houston is a better lake for catching bass than Conroe, but Houston just does not have the size. Most of the time an average angler will struggle on Conroe. A good bass lake an average angler can catch fish regularly. In no way does it fish anywhere near as good as it did around 2006-2007 when the hydrilla was abundant. I think when the hydrilla was abundant it could challenge any lake in the state in both quality and quantity. If they would just spray south of 1097 and around the docks north of 1097 and let the rest grow it would be an incredible lake, while keeping the homeowners content.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/12/22 05:52 PM
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RKT
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Conroe not a good bass lake? Crazy talk…on any weekend during the season the weights will be heavier than Rayburn with a third of the field size. Can you go out and just flail around and expect to catch ‘em? No…it’s not Fayette County. But you and I both know its a small number of people that bring those big weights in and its the same teams doing it over and over. The average catch numbers per tournament are not that high except a few tournaments every once in a while when the fish just turn on. If it fished good the tournament numbers would be 70 plus boats per tournament like they were the last year it had good hydrilla.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/12/22 08:07 PM
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Not familiar with Conroe, but I've fished Hubbard Creek when coves and creeks were matted with hydrilla. I love fishing the grass and realize its great habitat for fish and water quality, but if I owned a lake house, I would not want my dock choked out with grass.
I think those paying property taxes on the land should have more of a say so than I as a fisherman.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
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09/12/22 09:04 PM
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I use to hate that they got rid of the hydrilla, but after seeing what it does to that lake, I now understand. And a happy medium is very pricey. Yes fishing would be better, but blocking access to 1000s of homes is prolly not the answer either.
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Re: Hydrilla control at lake Conroe
[Re: RKT]
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09/12/22 09:33 PM
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Dean Coleman
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Conroe not a good bass lake? Crazy talk…on any weekend during the season the weights will be heavier than Rayburn with a third of the field size. Can you go out and just flail around and expect to catch ‘em? No…it’s not Fayette County. But you and I both know its a small number of people that bring those big weights in and its the same teams doing it over and over. The average catch numbers per tournament are not that high except a few tournaments every once in a while when the fish just turn on. If it fished good the tournament numbers would be 70 plus boats per tournament like they were the last year it had good hydrilla. Some guys are really good out there no doubt. I have to give them credit for putting in the time. It’s definitely not easy, but the lake has got the fish.
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