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Re: Climate change
[Re: ReelBusy]
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08/02/22 02:04 PM
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Bob Davis
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If the left is for climate change, it has to be stupid or immoral. The earth takes care of itself. Remember the end of the world cultists when the BP offshore oil blew and spewed a trillion gallons into the sea? Gone. Where did it go? I'm surprised they haven't pinned the Le Brea tar pits on Exxon yet. Exactly. Idiot climate cultists with the likes of Al Gore and Greta Thunberg as its leaders. Wow.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Jpurdue]
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08/02/22 02:06 PM
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Pat Goff
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How do you know it's not getting hotter?
1. Are you disputing that C02 and other greenhouse gases raise temperatures in closed systems? If so, please go buy two big clear beach balls on amazon. Fill one with air from your compressor. Fill the other with half air from your compressor and half C02 you get from your local weld shop. Throw the balls out in the sun, then use a thermal camera (those are cheap these days also) and measure the temp of the beach balls an hour later. The one with C02 will absolutely be hotter.
2. Are you disputing that man has released vast quantities of C02 and other greenhouse gases since the start of the industrial revolution?
1 + 2 = Global warming. You can literally prove it in your back yard for about 20 bucks.
You rag me for being "unscientific" then turn around and sling this poo back? To be a progressive liberal, one must first be a flaming hypocrite. Here's the real question there Poindexter, let's take your balloons. Now, for every 86,000 air molecules add ONE molecule of CO2. Now do your same test. Hmm, not going to turn out the same is it? Here's where YOUR "science" fails. There is no relevance of scale, "double the amount" doesn't mean anything when you're talking about the difference between 0.000003 and 0.000006. Neither one of them amount to mouse nuts. Is the planet getting warmer? Maybe. Is it because of your F150? Nope. One volcano burp equals a hundred years combined carbon emissions from humans. And yet, we live on. Here's where it becomes very clear, every doomsday predicting climate fanatic is convinced the only "cure" is to have complete central government control over your life. Not theirs, yours. Every fanatic "scientist" has a just as qualified scientist with just as compelling evidence that is 180 degrees different. Why is that? It's because the fanatics are funded to prove a result that benefits the one funding the research. Here's dissenting opinions. You might even learn something not revealed on NPR. https://shalemag.com/manmade-global-warming-the-story-the-reality/https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08...nge-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.htmlhttps://www.naturalnews.com/045695_global_warming_fabricated_data_scientific_fraud.html
Last edited by Pat Goff; 08/02/22 02:12 PM.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Bob Davis]
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08/02/22 02:08 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,664
Razorback
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If the left is for climate change, it has to be stupid or immoral. The earth takes care of itself. Remember the end of the world cultists when the BP offshore oil blew and spewed a trillion gallons into the sea? Gone. Where did it go? I had a woman tell me that seafood was going to be wiped out in the Gulf, probably up the east coast of Florida, and maybe up the Atlantic Seaboard. When I laughed she asked, "Have you seen how much oil is spewing out!?" To which I asked, "Have you seen how big the Gulf of Mexico is? This isn't even equivalent to putting a medicine dropper in an Olympic pool." Foolishness is applauded, considered virtuous by these zealots.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Pat Goff]
#14437264
08/02/22 02:31 PM
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Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,306
fishmagnet
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How do you know it's not getting hotter?
1. Are you disputing that C02 and other greenhouse gases raise temperatures in closed systems? If so, please go buy two big clear beach balls on amazon. Fill one with air from your compressor. Fill the other with half air from your compressor and half C02 you get from your local weld shop. Throw the balls out in the sun, then use a thermal camera (those are cheap these days also) and measure the temp of the beach balls an hour later. The one with C02 will absolutely be hotter.
2. Are you disputing that man has released vast quantities of C02 and other greenhouse gases since the start of the industrial revolution?
1 + 2 = Global warming. You can literally prove it in your back yard for about 20 bucks.
You rag me for being "unscientific" then turn around and sling this poo back? To be a progressive liberal, one must first be a flaming hypocrite. Here's the real question there Poindexter, let's take your balloons. Now, for every 86,000 air molecules add ONE molecule of CO2. Now do your same test. Hmm, not going to turn out the same is it? Here's where YOUR "science" fails. There is no relevance of scale, "double the amount" doesn't mean anything when you're talking about the difference between 0.000003 and 0.000006. Neither one of them amount to mouse nuts. Is the planet getting warmer? Maybe. Is it because of your F150? Nope. One volcano burp equals a hundred years combined carbon emissions from humans. And yet, we live on. Here's where it becomes very clear, every doomsday predicting climate fanatic is convinced the only "cure" is to have complete central government control over your life. Not theirs, yours. Every fanatic "scientist" has a just as qualified scientist with just as compelling evidence that is 180 degrees different. Why is that? It's because the fanatics are funded to prove a result that benefits the one funding the research. Here's dissenting opinions. You might even learn something not revealed on NPR. https://shalemag.com/manmade-global-warming-the-story-the-reality/https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08...nge-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.htmlhttps://www.naturalnews.com/045695_global_warming_fabricated_data_scientific_fraud.html
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
#14437268
08/02/22 02:36 PM
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Ghost4BH
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These threads sure help us find out who the liberals around here are. Some of them even call themselves conservatives, but we can see their true colors on full display.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 02:47 PM
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Razorback
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Remember all the news and human interest stories about Hurricane Harvey? The Go Fund Me accounts? The saturation of coverage of how these global warming caused systems were going ti become more common and more devastating?
The intense cold and ice, and the blackouts caused by a lack of dependable electricity, killed a lot more people and created greater economic impact. Where was the national media obsession with that event? Why weren't we bombarded by stories about how we have never seen weather that cold in recorded human history?
Oh, that's right. Hurricanes fit the narrative. Intense cold doesn't.
In the last 20 years we have seen the coldest temperature ever recorded on Earth (Antarctica a few years ago) and all-time record polar ice. None of that fits the narrative, either.
It's a scam, a damn lie.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
#14437286
08/02/22 02:48 PM
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Douglas J
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Climate hasn't changed, it's still hot as ****
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Razorback]
#14437291
08/02/22 02:51 PM
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Oldrabbit
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We have already killed people because we shut down coal generating plants. The Monticello and Fairfield plants alone could have heated millions of Texans during the February 2021 cold wave. Other coal plants producing gigawatts of electricity had also been shut down because EPA regulations made them too expensive to operate.
Wouldn't it have been nice if the grid had had a few more gigawatts of dependable electricity to spread around. We could have probably avoided the grid-ordered blackouts that let 251 Texans freeze to death and caused billions and billions of dollars of damage due to busted pipes, flooding, etc.
But that is a...what was Al Gore's term? Oh, yeah, an "inconvenient truth". Climate change policy isn't an abstract concept, it is a political movement that is killing people and destroying our economy right now. Just think bout how clean the coal fired power plants could have been if we had spent all the incentives (over 2 billion) on Solar and Wind Farms, on Emission Scrubbing Technology for the Coal Plants. We could have had clean, dependable energy for decades.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Oldrabbit]
#14437309
08/02/22 03:02 PM
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Ghost4BH
TFF Guru
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We have already killed people because we shut down coal generating plants. The Monticello and Fairfield plants alone could have heated millions of Texans during the February 2021 cold wave. Other coal plants producing gigawatts of electricity had also been shut down because EPA regulations made them too expensive to operate.
Wouldn't it have been nice if the grid had had a few more gigawatts of dependable electricity to spread around. We could have probably avoided the grid-ordered blackouts that let 251 Texans freeze to death and caused billions and billions of dollars of damage due to busted pipes, flooding, etc.
But that is a...what was Al Gore's term? Oh, yeah, an "inconvenient truth". Climate change policy isn't an abstract concept, it is a political movement that is killing people and destroying our economy right now. Just think bout how clean the coal fired power plants could have been if we had spent all the incentives (over 2 billion) on Solar and Wind Farms, on Emission Scrubbing Technology for the Coal Plants. We could have had clean, dependable energy for decades. Or maybe if those plants would have been converted to natural gas power plants.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
#14437349
08/02/22 03:37 PM
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butch sanders
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so if you believe in taking care of natural resources having clean air & water leaving a functioning planet for our kids it makes you a liberal ? proud to be liberal
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Re: Climate change
[Re: butch sanders]
#14437363
08/02/22 03:47 PM
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Posts: 18,187
COFF
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so if you believe in taking care of natural resources having clean air & water leaving a functioning planet for our kids it makes you a liberal ? proud to be liberal It's more about believing in the proposed path to get there. All of the "green" solutions we now have, everything from the EPA, everything from the "save the earth" crowd is all about wealth distribution and empowering one group over another. Personally, I've never had a problem trying to keep our environment clean. I just have a very big problem paying for programs that don't work, and an many cases create worse problems than they were intended to fix.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: butch sanders]
#14437367
08/02/22 03:51 PM
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Posts: 2,291
The Searchers
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so if you believe in taking care of natural resources having clean air & water leaving a functioning planet for our kids it makes you a liberal ? proud to be liberal Based on years of posts, I would venture to say your take on the planet is not your only liberal opinion.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
#14437498
08/02/22 05:10 PM
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Posts: 14,117
Stump jumper
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Our government is now saying that summers will just get hotter from now on. What about 1980 and 2011? We had plenty of normal ot even cooler then normal summers after those years.
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