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 Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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04/23/22 11:47 PM
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Year round. They are a lot more versatile than you think. Shallow to deep, slow to fast,cold water, warm water, open water, in grass, pads and timber. You can creep them out deep or run them just under the surface too. What size do you use the most and how do you mostly use the line through or the ones with a large single hook weedless or on a flashy swimmer.
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: Ken A.]
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04/24/22 12:04 AM
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I do this hack to the 8" MD and use the 10/0 with 1/2 oz weight. It weighs 4 oz with this hook. I use 25 Gamma Flo. You can fish it thru just about anything rigged like this and when they bit it they choke it. I throw it out and let it sink to the bottom. Reel it slow but keep it moving just fast enough to keep the tail wiggling. When they bite it give em a second just like you would a frog before you swing. You will need a meat stick to fish it like this. This is the rod I have settled on. I average two bites per trip on this bait and it works on my shoulder pretty good casting it. I make 20-25 cats with it then pick up a Texas Rig and fish it a few mins to rest. Then go right back to it. Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know if I keep throwing it I will get a giant eventually. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2022/04/full-19947-136733-screen_shot_2022_04_23_at_11.30.10_am.png) What is the point of getting a pre-rigged bait and cut it out to make it weedless with an Owner beast hook. Just get the one they make that is not pre-rigged and use the beast hook.
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: wh2004]
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04/24/22 12:20 AM
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I primarily throw the Smashtech Convict as Heath recommends on the 10/0 Owner Beast. Totally weedless and will go through any cover (coontail, pads, etc) if you keep your rod pointed at the bait so the line is straight at it and make a steady retrieve (Thanks Billy Lawson for that tip!). Haven't ever bought anything except for light hitch or ayu in terms of color. Biggest I've caught on it is 10.5lbs. Was just slow retrieving it through a field of pads and she hit it like a runaway freight train. Pretty much the most fun catch I've ever had. However, have also caught a bunch of 3-4 lber's on it who were just as determined to pull my rod out of my hands. The convict just flat catches 'em for me all year round but especially post spawn and through the summer. Smashtech ConvictI use a Dobys Fury 795SB with a Lews SuperDuty 6.4:1 with 40lbs green braid (I think Suffix 832 but honestly don't remember the brand). Got the Dobyns for $99 from Tacklewarehouse on sale. Also use it with all of my big glide baits (up to a Deps 250) and on the rare occasion I throw an a-rig. It is plenty of rod and IMHO the best value for a swimbait rod...why pay for a bunch of sensitivity you really don't need? Dobyns Fury Swimbait Rod
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: ezbassin]
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04/24/22 04:52 AM
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I do this hack to the 8" MD and use the 10/0 with 1/2 oz weight. It weighs 4 oz with this hook. I use 25 Gamma Flo. You can fish it thru just about anything rigged like this and when they bit it they choke it. I throw it out and let it sink to the bottom. Reel it slow but keep it moving just fast enough to keep the tail wiggling. When they bite it give em a second just like you would a frog before you swing. You will need a meat stick to fish it like this. This is the rod I have settled on. I average two bites per trip on this bait and it works on my shoulder pretty good casting it. I make 20-25 cats with it then pick up a Texas Rig and fish it a few mins to rest. Then go right back to it. Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know if I keep throwing it I will get a giant eventually. What is the point of getting a pre-rigged bait and cut it out to make it weedless with an Owner beast hook. Just get the one they make that is not pre-rigged and use the beast hook. I was thinking the same thing earlier so I looked and It looks like MB only has a 6” version that’s not pre-rigged. Regardless, I would not tear one up. I’ll probably get a few 6” ones to rig and a few of those convicts.
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: Ken A.]
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04/24/22 07:05 AM
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I average two bites per trip on this bait and it works on my shoulder pretty good casting it. I make 20-25 cats with it then pick up a Texas Rig and fish it a few mins to rest. Then go right back to it. Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know if I keep throwing it I will get a giant eventually. OK Ken, that’s just arrogant! “Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know I will get a GIANT eventually”??? News flash! 10.17 is still a GIANT! 🤔🤷🏻♂️🤪
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: ezbassin]
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04/24/22 02:51 PM
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Ken A.
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I do this hack to the 8" MD and use the 10/0 with 1/2 oz weight. It weighs 4 oz with this hook. I use 25 Gamma Flo. You can fish it thru just about anything rigged like this and when they bit it they choke it. I throw it out and let it sink to the bottom. Reel it slow but keep it moving just fast enough to keep the tail wiggling. When they bite it give em a second just like you would a frog before you swing. You will need a meat stick to fish it like this. This is the rod I have settled on. I average two bites per trip on this bait and it works on my shoulder pretty good casting it. I make 20-25 cats with it then pick up a Texas Rig and fish it a few mins to rest. Then go right back to it. Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know if I keep throwing it I will get a giant eventually. What is the point of getting a pre-rigged bait and cut it out to make it weedless with an Owner beast hook. Just get the one they make that is not pre-rigged and use the beast hook. They don't offer the 8" model in a free style version. Only the six inch
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: Ken A.]
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04/24/22 10:19 PM
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I do this hack to the 8" MD and use the 10/0 with 1/2 oz weight. It weighs 4 oz with this hook. I use 25 Gamma Flo. You can fish it thru just about anything rigged like this and when they bit it they choke it. I throw it out and let it sink to the bottom. Reel it slow but keep it moving just fast enough to keep the tail wiggling. When they bite it give em a second just like you would a frog before you swing. You will need a meat stick to fish it like this. This is the rod I have settled on. I average two bites per trip on this bait and it works on my shoulder pretty good casting it. I make 20-25 cats with it then pick up a Texas Rig and fish it a few mins to rest. Then go right back to it. Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know if I keep throwing it I will get a giant eventually. What is the point of getting a pre-rigged bait and cut it out to make it weedless with an Owner beast hook. Just get the one they make that is not pre-rigged and use the beast hook. They don't offer the 8" model in a free style version. Only the six inch Ok, I did not look that up. I just assumed with all the equipment they make that they made both versions in both sizes.
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: 361V]
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04/30/22 04:29 PM
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Ken A.
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I average two bites per trip on this bait and it works on my shoulder pretty good casting it. I make 20-25 cats with it then pick up a Texas Rig and fish it a few mins to rest. Then go right back to it. Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know if I keep throwing it I will get a giant eventually. OK Ken, that’s just arrogant! “Caught a 10.17 on it 3 weeks ago but I know I will get a GIANT eventually”??? News flash! 10.17 is still a GIANT! 🤔🤷🏻♂️🤪 Haha! It was my attempt at sarcastic humor. Any LEGIT DD is a Giant. 
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: wh2004]
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05/05/22 05:17 AM
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I was looking at the MB magdraft. Since It has a treble hook on the bottom would you fish It differently? I started fishing the mag draft lately. I would definitely give it a thumbs up. One thing I have noticed is that it will catch all sizes. Hard part for me is reeling it slow enough. You can really use it anytime of year but post spawn & shad spawn to me is where it can shine. I like this lure & to be honest I didn’t think I would at first.
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Re: When do you throw big, soft swimsuits?
[Re: wh2004]
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05/05/22 11:48 AM
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Dang Iconn4! Stop already! Just about the time my broken heart starts to mend again over of the closing of the boat ramp/county park you post another picture and I have to start all over with the healing process! 💔😢 ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2022/05/full-34948-138137-bb567113_dabe_4ea2_ac27_8bc3c959116c.png)
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