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Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: JackMason] #14349543 04/22/22 02:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 95,764 White Settlement, TX. Bigbob_FTW OP Big Sprocket Bob
OP Bigbob_FTW Big Sprocket Bob Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 95,764 White Settlement, TX.	Originally Posted by JackMason Originally Posted by LoneStarSon Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW ROANOKE, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) - The Department of Labor said a Roanoke barbeque restaurant owes $867,572 in back wages to 910 employes after investigators found that it was allegedly not paying overtime and including managers in its tip pool. According to the Wage and Hour Division, the Roanoke Hard Eight BBQ restaurant failed to pay tipped employees fairly by including managers in the tip pool. The Fair Labor Standards Act does not allow employers or their managers to keep tips that workers receive for any purpose. story WHY would managers be included in a tip pool?!?! This is why tipping needs to be done away with. Pay them what the job is worth! Yeah, not sure why managers part of it. Getting rid of tipping would cost you in higher priced menu selections at full service restaurants. But you save on the tip. Seems it would all equal out. FJB

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Ted Dyer] #14349548 04/22/22 02:40 AM
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BassFever TFF Guru B Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,135 Irving	Originally Posted by Ted Dyer Dang, I Iike Hard 8 I bet you do.

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: LoneStarSon] #14349552 04/22/22 02:44 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,801 Texas T Ted Dyer TFF Celebrity
Ted Dyer TFF Celebrity T Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,801 Texas	Originally Posted by LoneStarSon Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW ROANOKE, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) - The Department of Labor said a Roanoke barbeque restaurant owes $867,572 in back wages to 910 employes after investigators found that it was allegedly not paying overtime and including managers in its tip pool. According to the Wage and Hour Division, the Roanoke Hard Eight BBQ restaurant failed to pay tipped employees fairly by including managers in the tip pool. The Fair Labor Standards Act does not allow employers or their managers to keep tips that workers receive for any purpose. story WHY would managers be included in a tip pool?!?! This is why tipping needs to be done away with. Pay them what the job is worth! I agree with this Courage - knowing something will hurt and still doing it. Stupidity - knowing something will hurt and still doing it. That’s why life is difficult

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: JackMason] #14349555 04/22/22 02:50 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 61,069 Between here and there L LoneStarSon Private Dancer
LoneStarSon Private Dancer L Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 61,069 Between here and there	Originally Posted by JackMason Originally Posted by LoneStarSon Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW ROANOKE, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) - The Department of Labor said a Roanoke barbeque restaurant owes $867,572 in back wages to 910 employes after investigators found that it was allegedly not paying overtime and including managers in its tip pool. According to the Wage and Hour Division, the Roanoke Hard Eight BBQ restaurant failed to pay tipped employees fairly by including managers in the tip pool. The Fair Labor Standards Act does not allow employers or their managers to keep tips that workers receive for any purpose. story WHY would managers be included in a tip pool?!?! This is why tipping needs to be done away with. Pay them what the job is worth! Yeah, not sure why managers part of it. Getting rid of tipping would cost you in higher priced menu selections at full service restaurants. I'm okay with that...I would prefer that. I work in an industry that tipping is customary...I do not get tipped. Period. It's not allowed, first off, because I am a state employee, second, I am paid what I should be paid. The university keeps a portion of what I earn per client so that I can then do free chair massage events, and buy a $2000 hydraulic table (about $3000 nowadays) so my clients with mobility issues can easily get on the table, etc. My program also helps to pay for more gym equipment, etc. Because I am paid an appropriate amount, I am happy...and I work hard...and in turn, the students and university as a whole benefits. This is how it is supposed to work! Oh and by the way, my massage program is one of the least expensive around...and it still brings in enough to cover my wages, allows me to do the free massage events, and cover the cost of the program. I may be a state employee, but my program pays for itself and then some...and we don't allow tipping. Last edited by LoneStarSon; 04/22/22 02:52 AM.

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Moto-Moto] #14349559 04/22/22 02:51 AM
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Scagnetti TFF Guru S Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 32,922 Dallas	Originally Posted by Moto-Moto What's their stance on Justin Frazell? When celebrity jock sniffing gets in the way of Tea Bagger conservatism…

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: BassFever] #14349566 04/22/22 02:56 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,268 DFW, Tx W wupbass Extreme Angler
wupbass Extreme Angler W Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,268 DFW, Tx	Originally Posted by BassFever Originally Posted by Ted Dyer Dang, I Iike Hard 8 I bet you do. I was waiting for someone to catch that......

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #14349567 04/22/22 02:57 AM
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Pat Goff TFF Guru P Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,167 Seadrift TX	They had one in Brady. Meh. Especially since I went past Coopers in Mason, why bother. Pat Goff Seadrift TX

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Brandon Adamcik] #14349599 04/22/22 05:08 AM
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Douglas J TFF Guru D Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,810 Tejas	Originally Posted by Brandon Adamcik Happened to Hooters 20 years ago. One of my wife’s friends is a nut and kept all her check outs stubs over about 8 years. They all got paid hooters chicks got a lot of horny lonely men's money to offset their pay #MFGA

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #14349630 04/22/22 10:40 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 21,109 NRH, TX buda13 TFF Guru
buda13 TFF Guru Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 21,109 NRH, TX	As much as it costs to eat at Hard 8 they should be able to afford to pay their employees… Only industry I know of you can get away without paying overtime after 40 is trucking. Most still pay it at 40, but Ive worked in places that don’t pay OT till 50 for drivers. Didn’t apply to office, only drivers.

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: buda13] #14349636 04/22/22 10:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,084 Flower Mound, TX Hard Rain TFF Guru
Hard Rain TFF Guru Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,084 Flower Mound, TX	Originally Posted by buda13 As much as it costs to eat at Hard 8 they should be able to afford to pay their employees… Only industry I know of you can get away without paying overtime after 40 is trucking. Most still pay it at 40, but Ive worked in places that don’t pay OT till 50 for drivers. Didn’t apply to office, only drivers. I agree and the few times I have eaten at Hard 8 in Coppell it was meh at best.

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Dave-0] #14349652 04/22/22 11:26 AM
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Nickbyrd TFF Guru N Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 10,372 Beerkegistan	Originally Posted by Dave-0 The place I currently work at doesn't pay you overtime either. If you work over your time, you get it "added to your next check," which somehow gets forgotten. About 6-7 years ago, a tree and I got tangled up and ended up with 3 cracked vertebra, ripped up rotator cuff and a concussion. Boss man told me I had to use my vacation time for any time I missed at work. Seems like pretty standard practice now days. Or so I thought. That is a whole bunch of [censored] !

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #14349664 04/22/22 11:51 AM
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RATZ Activity Coordinator Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 49,483 Pantego	I hit a hard 8 last time I was in Vegas it paid well these guys must not If God is your co-pilot then change seats https://abaltcustomlures.com/

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Hard Rain] #14349874 04/22/22 04:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,185 Austin Streater TFF Celebrity
Streater TFF Celebrity Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,185 Austin	I didn't know that they were still in business. With all the mesquite they use, the meat taste like gasoline. Definitely New York City BBQ. The vegatables and desserts are really really good, though.

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Ted Dyer] #14349884 04/22/22 04:15 PM
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WAWI TFF Guru W Joined: May 2007 Posts: 40,552	Originally Posted by Ted Dyer Originally Posted by LoneStarSon Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW ROANOKE, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) - The Department of Labor said a Roanoke barbeque restaurant owes $867,572 in back wages to 910 employes after investigators found that it was allegedly not paying overtime and including managers in its tip pool. According to the Wage and Hour Division, the Roanoke Hard Eight BBQ restaurant failed to pay tipped employees fairly by including managers in the tip pool. The Fair Labor Standards Act does not allow employers or their managers to keep tips that workers receive for any purpose. story WHY would managers be included in a tip pool?!?! This is why tipping needs to be done away with. Pay them what the job is worth! I agree with this Meh, this is a rare practice that is hugely stupid and most people know better than to do something so stupid. I cant believe a CPA which they for sure have reviewing their stuff ever signed off on it. The tipping system works just fine.

Re: Hard 8 busted [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #14349895 04/22/22 04:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,269 Ovilla, TEXAS reeltexan TFF Celebrity
reeltexan TFF Celebrity Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,269 Ovilla, TEXAS	It was just ok. "..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare

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