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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Derek ๐Ÿ] #14325862 03/25/22 01:36 PM
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Oh forgot to mention, I've also got some potatoes planted. Got some seed potatoes online and I'm trying them out in containers. Got a late start with them so they've barely started to germinate, just a few little leaves each. Any advice for container potatoes is welcome.


Disclaimer: I've never grown potatoes and specifically container potatoes, so I have no actual experience on what it best. Scanned a few university studies on them and it looks like the use up a lot of nitrogen and Potassium. That's the first and last numbers on a n/p/k chart. Like 15-5-10 fertilizer. Lots/most of the Czechs here roll their potatoes in wood ash prior to planting which is Potassium. (Keep it between us but most of them think wood ash is nitrogen and it's potassium) Anyway. From what I scanned I would find a fert you like, like Miracle Gro general purpose which is a 24-8-16. Personally I would go with something likes Jacks 20-20-20. You can find it at Calloways. You're growing in a container which I'm assuming has holes in the bottom. So every time you water your have nutrients leaching out. Whatever fert you decide to go with I would get the label recommendation and divide it to where you are applying smaller amounts every watering. If it says 4TBS per gallon per month, do 1TBS per watering per week. Whatever it is divide it so you are always applying small feedings and not all at once and it gets leached out and it's starving for 3 weeks. If that makes sense.


Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for the info. Yeah they'll have holes at the bottom with a layer of gravel for proper drainage.

I've got a compost bin going which has a good bit ready for the garden and some extra bags of leaves to mix with the first couple batches of lawn clippings. I'm guessing compost alone isn't enough to provide adequate nutrients to the soil but do you think I should adjust my fertilizer regiment at all knowing I'll be adding compost periodically?


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #14325878 03/25/22 01:54 PM
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I've got potatoes this, first time. I planted them in grow bags with just some good quality raised bed garden dirt. I used some organic fertilizer. I just added more dirt to them yesterday. When they are ready for more I'm going to use some composted cow manure.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: spazm09] #14325952 03/25/22 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spazm09
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Oh forgot to mention, I've also got some potatoes planted. Got some seed potatoes online and I'm trying them out in containers. Got a late start with them so they've barely started to germinate, just a few little leaves each. Any advice for container potatoes is welcome.


Disclaimer: I've never grown potatoes and specifically container potatoes, so I have no actual experience on what it best. Scanned a few university studies on them and it looks like the use up a lot of nitrogen and Potassium. That's the first and last numbers on a n/p/k chart. Like 15-5-10 fertilizer. Lots/most of the Czechs here roll their potatoes in wood ash prior to planting which is Potassium. (Keep it between us but most of them think wood ash is nitrogen and it's potassium) Anyway. From what I scanned I would find a fert you like, like Miracle Gro general purpose which is a 24-8-16. Personally I would go with something likes Jacks 20-20-20. You can find it at Calloways. You're growing in a container which I'm assuming has holes in the bottom. So every time you water your have nutrients leaching out. Whatever fert you decide to go with I would get the label recommendation and divide it to where you are applying smaller amounts every watering. If it says 4TBS per gallon per month, do 1TBS per watering per week. Whatever it is divide it so you are always applying small feedings and not all at once and it gets leached out and it's starving for 3 weeks. If that makes sense.


Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for the info. Yeah they'll have holes at the bottom with a layer of gravel for proper drainage.

I've got a compost bin going which has a good bit ready for the garden and some extra bags of leaves to mix with the first couple batches of lawn clippings. I'm guessing compost alone isn't enough to provide adequate nutrients to the soil but do you think I should adjust my fertilizer regiment at all knowing I'll be adding compost periodically?


I wouldn't adjust. People hear the word compost and think it's something magical. It is good stuff, but not something I'm going to solely rely on. It's going to help soil structure, moisture and nutrient retention, it will supply some NPK as it breaks down. How much and what nutrients is it going to supply? Idk. Depends on what it's make up is. I've never have soil tested my garden soil so I have no idea what it's lacking. I have 7 different raised beds and each one is probably a little different. What I do know is that vegetable plants are heavy feeders. So I'm going to supplemental feed them. So since I don't know how much my compost is supplying I do know how much NPK I am supplying with a 15-30-20 or a 20-20-20 whatever ratio, Plants prefer to get light feedings more often. That's why you see on products like Miracle Gro the instructions say to do it every two weeks. Because the amount they are having you apply is low but often. And then whatever is breaking down in the soil/compost will add continuous slow low amounts as well. Everyone is working hand and hand.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #14326325 03/26/22 12:09 AM
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #14326963 03/27/22 01:25 AM
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I have always bought pepper plants in the 6 packs. 2 years ago I could not find them at Lowes or HD. Last year I found them but not this year. I don't need the larger plants. The smaller ones have always done well for me. I figured 2 years ago I was just late buying plants and they sold out. I am not paying $5/plant so while I might be a little late starting them I planted some seeds in planters I saved from last year. Hopefully they sprout and grow.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Stump jumper] #14328161 03/28/22 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stump jumper
I have always bought pepper plants in the 6 packs. 2 years ago I could not find them at Lowes or HD. Last year I found them but not this year. I don't need the larger plants. The smaller ones have always done well for me. I figured 2 years ago I was just late buying plants and they sold out. I am not paying $5/plant so while I might be a little late starting them I planted some seeds in planters I saved from last year. Hopefully they sprout and grow.


Haven't seen 6 packs in the box stores in a hot minute. 2 of the 3 smaller independent nurseries I went to over the weekend had 6 packs of a decent selection of peppers. Most of the farm/feed stores will have 6 packs too.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #14328889 03/29/22 12:28 AM
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Decided that with an overcast day tomorrow itโ€™s time to get the peppers and tomatoes planted. Iโ€™m glad theyโ€™re finally in the ground.

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Decided that with an overcast day tomorrow itโ€™s time to get the peppers and tomatoes planted. Iโ€™m glad theyโ€™re finally in the ground.


Looks great. The antler sheds it what really makes this garden. smile


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: David Welcher] #14329338 03/29/22 02:34 PM
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Your peach trees are always on point. Did you get enough chill hours this year? What's growing in the trays?


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Hey Derek, what do you use for squash bugs? I have fought these things every single summer and so far I'm batting about .100 against them! Any and all help is greatly apprecicated!

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Hey Derek, what do you use for squash bugs? I have fought these things every single summer and so far I'm batting about .100 against them! Any and all help is greatly apprecicated!


Yeah they are a PITA and good luck. Hand pick any adults you see and look under the leaves daily to crush the eggs you see. There are a few insecticides labeled for them, but not much or any kill the adults or eggs, but good at killing nymphs. It's really a daily inspection you have to do and sucks. I'm going to plant squash later in the onion beds once I pull them and see what happens.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #14331237 03/31/22 01:51 PM
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Main garden is planted. Starting tobacco in 6 weeks hoping to harvest and cure in October.

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Now we're talking. No more of this sissy tomato and squash garbage. You're going real man stuff.


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Your peach trees are always on point. Did you get enough chill hours this year? What's growing in the trays?

I didn't track the hours this year, I was about to give up by Christmas, but we had 90 days after that where we had over 1,000 hours which is way more than we need.

Squash is in the trays, it always seems I mess around and miss a lot of squash as it gets too hot to bloom, so I started real early this year.

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