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Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/01/22 07:20 AM
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Fishbonz
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Tried to trim up my mercury 150 HP 2 stroke and it made the normal sounds but would`nt budge. It`s stuck in the down position! If anyone has a clue I sure would like to hear it, I can`t even put the transom savor on it to take it in for a repair because I can`t get it up...no pun intended.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/01/22 02:12 PM
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My first step would be to check fluid level. Get some help, manually raise motor and engage tilt lock. Check fluid level and inspect for any signs of leakage.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/01/22 04:22 PM
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Fishbonz
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Excuse me for being a Dumb A$$ but how do I go about raising a motor that will not trim up??? It`s pretty dog gone heavy! 
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/01/22 04:40 PM
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T Bird
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Yes it is, that's why you need to get some help.
Worst case, you could get an automotive eng. hoist and strap and raise it by yourself.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/01/22 10:26 PM
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Fishbonz
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Yes it is, that's why you need to get some help.
Worst case, you could get an automotive eng. hoist and strap and raise it by yourself. You`re right T Bird! I got back there and gave it the old "heave ho " and it moved (after I turned the manual release screw which I knew nothing about pre Youtube video) enough to give me hope.I`ll have to rent a Hoist . I don`t see any signs of leaking hydraulic fluid ,would`nt there be spots underneath it if it were?
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 01:18 AM
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 01:41 PM
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T Bird
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Once you get motor raised you'll see that screw/fill port on the tilt/trim unit.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 01:45 PM
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Yes it is, that's why you need to get some help.
Worst case, you could get an automotive eng. hoist and strap and raise it by yourself. You`re right T Bird! I got back there and gave it the old "heave ho " and it moved (after I turned the manual release screw which I knew nothing about pre Youtube video) enough to give me hope.I`ll have to rent a Hoist . I don`t see any signs of leaking hydraulic fluid ,would`nt there be spots underneath it if it were? Possibly, however the unit doesn't hold much fluid.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 03:11 PM
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On my engine the "fill screw" is just above the picture on it`s port side. Is there another fill screw hidden underneath somewhere? ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2022/02/full-35665-126991-20220202_085848refill_screw.jpg)
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 03:38 PM
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You might not notice oil on the floor under the motor if it is on a transom saver because there wouldn't be any pressure on the unit. Chances are you lost fluid. If that is your issue, while on the lake using the T&T. the water would wash away evidence of a leak. Raise the motor and put on the locks. Check the fluid, if low, fill till it runs out. Lower the motor and try to pick up with the T&T motor. If it still does not move, repeat the process. If and when it starts to move you should hear a gurgling sound. This is the air if the system. Keep doing this until everything moves normally. If you have a leak you should see it around which ever cylinder is bad. If the leak is on one of the 2 title cylinders you can replace the seals without removing the unit, If it is on the main ram you will have to remove the unit and pull the cylinder apart. Not a hard job, but time consuming. Let us know your findings, it may help others.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 03:52 PM
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Fishbonz
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You might not notice oil on the floor under the motor if it is on a transom saver because there wouldn't be any pressure on the unit. Chances are you lost fluid. If that is your issue, while on the lake using the T&T. the water would wash away evidence of a leak. Raise the motor and put on the locks. Check the fluid, if low, fill till it runs out. Lower the motor and try to pick up with the T&T motor. If it still does not move, repeat the process. If and when it starts to move you should hear a gurgling sound. This is the air if the system. Keep doing this until everything moves normally. If you have a leak you should see it around which ever cylinder is bad. If the leak is on one of the 2 title cylinders you can replace the seals without removing the unit, If it is on the main ram you will have to remove the unit and pull the cylinder apart. Not a hard job, but time consuming. Let us know your findings, it may help others. PM sent 
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/02/22 03:54 PM
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On my engine the "fill screw" is just above the picture on it`s port side. Is there another fill screw hidden underneath somewhere? Nope, that's it.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/03/22 04:53 AM
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Fishbonz
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You might not notice oil on the floor under the motor if it is on a transom saver because there wouldn't be any pressure on the unit. Chances are you lost fluid. If that is your issue, while on the lake using the T&T. the water would wash away evidence of a leak. Raise the motor and put on the locks. Check the fluid, if low, fill till it runs out. Lower the motor and try to pick up with the T&T motor. If it still does not move, repeat the process. If and when it starts to move you should hear a gurgling sound. This is the air if the system. Keep doing this until everything moves normally. If you have a leak you should see it around which ever cylinder is bad. If the leak is on one of the 2 title cylinders you can replace the seals without removing the unit, If it is on the main ram you will have to remove the unit and pull the cylinder apart. Not a hard job, but time consuming. Let us know your findings, it may help others. I got my neighbor to help me lift it,put fluid in the fill/screw and replaced the screw ,lowered it ,tried trimming it and nothing happened. The Trim mtr motor screamed as normal but no movement.There were no leaks from the seals when I checked them However when I removed the fill/screw I noticed that I could`nt see any fluid at the top and when I did put fluid in it didn`t take very much to top it off. Is this normal ? or should I repeat the whole process again?
Last edited by Fishbonz; 02/03/22 04:55 AM.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/03/22 01:47 PM
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Costa Plente
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Just putting fluid in doesn't always fix it. You have to get all the air out of the system when you let the fluid level get too low. Go on YouTube and there should be plenty of information on how to do it correctly.
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Re: Tell me if this has happened to you.
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02/03/22 07:54 PM
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Just putting fluid in doesn't always fix it. You have to get all the air out of the system when you let the fluid level get too low. Go on YouTube and there should be plenty of information on how to do it correctly. 
HE aka Fishbonz
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