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 Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: reeltexan]
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08/20/21 08:53 PM
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I wonder what type of variant the Chinese will release next.
Lambda variant
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 08:56 PM
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Last time I checked 37.5 million in the USA have had COVID and have little need for the jab. If they get sick we treat the survivors differently than the regime compliant? Yep, they have ZERO interest in straying from the singularly focused one size fits all narrative - vax everybody early and often. There is zero interest in understanding the existence and impact for those with natural immunity who may (or may not) have better protection than the vaxed. But, by that mentality, they WOULDNT get sick a second time, therefore they’d NEVER need to go to the hospital for Covid again. But wait….so now having Covid once doesn’t mean your free if the effects? Now I’m confused. All the anti-jabs keep saying their own antibodies are BETTER than the artificial ones. You’re right, I even stumped myself on that post. I’ll just sack up my ball covids and go get in the back of the line in the hallway like always.
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 09:05 PM
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I wonder what type of variant the Chinese will release next.
Lambda variant Lambda has been in South America for over 7 months.
May you be treated the way you treat other people, today and everyday!
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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08/20/21 09:10 PM
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I wonder what type of variant the Chinese will release next.
Lambda variant Lambda has been in South America for over 7 months. Okay something else then maybe it will be Uranus next 
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 09:20 PM
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Last time I checked 37.5 million in the USA have had COVID and have little need for the jab. If they get sick we treat the survivors differently than the regime compliant? That's not what the article says. That's actually called out in number 2. A previous infection would be relevant information in determining survival odds. How would you propose the doctors choose who gets care when demand exceeds medical supply? I loathe the “everybody gets a trophy” societal trend and am a huge supporter of good old American competition. I would give higher priority to people I liked. There are lots of ways various people can go about getting me to like them more. I hope all of y’all that carry on all day long, every day of the week about it, catch it right in the nuts, and they don’t treat you. Apparently that’s the only way y’all will quit going on and on and on about it. 
And I know who "Jeff" is.
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 09:23 PM
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It comes down to basic triage. If you've had any emergency medicine or disaster training it's really a straight forward concept.
If you haven't here it is, basically you cannot save everyone, so you do not waste time and resources on those that are on the lower end of possibly surviving. It sucks, but it happens when a overcrowded world meets a pandemic.
It sucks, but it's reality.
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: John175☮]
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08/20/21 09:36 PM
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 09:41 PM
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I also don't understand how the ER's and Hospitals can be so over loaded with Covid patients. With 70% of adults having received at least 1 shot, 57% of the total population receiving at least 1 shot and 49% fully vaccinated whey are so many people still getting sick enough to have to be in ICU? Either someone is lying about how many people are vaccinated or the vaccines don't work very well. How can you have more sick folks with so many of them vaccinated now than during the BIG run up of numbers early on with no one having received the shot. Also you have to figure in the recovered population into the mix.
Let's take the DFW metroplex and surrounding area as an example (60% vaccinated): 40% of five million people is two million people. DFW has about 800 ICU beds I know there are still lots of unvaccinated people. But how is it so much worse at the hospitals now, with three million people taken out of the pool. What 3 million are you talking about? You mean the 3 million cases in Texas? If you've had Covid before, that does not make you immune from getting infected with the Delta variant. Also, Texas only has 64,510 staffed hospital beds (60,300 are staffed INPATIENT beds), pediatric and adult. Of the total 64510 beds, 7,313 are available (not specified if they are inpatient or outpatient beds). Texas has a population of about 30 million....and 13,259,050 aged 12 and up are fully vaccinated... Delta has a much higher rate of infection....and it's hitting the younger population, as they are the ones that are mostly unvaccinated...they are also the ones out there living their life. It happens. Hospitals are overwhelmed and understaffed.
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 09:45 PM
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Last time I checked 37.5 million in the USA have had COVID and have little need for the jab. If they get sick we treat the survivors differently than the regime compliant? Yep, they have ZERO interest in straying from the singularly focused one size fits all narrative - vax everybody early and often. There is zero interest in understanding the existence and impact for those with natural immunity who may (or may not) have better protection than the vaxed. But, by that mentality, they WOULDNT get sick a second time, therefore they’d NEVER need to go to the hospital for Covid again. But wait….so now having Covid once doesn’t mean your free if the effects? Now I’m confused. All the anti-jabs keep saying their own antibodies are BETTER than the artificial ones. Protects better for at least 8 months according to one study. Like the vaccine, you can still get covid but more likely to be a mild case. So is Pfizer 42% effective or did most of those have natural immunity? They aren't telling us.
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
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08/20/21 09:47 PM
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Last time I checked 37.5 million in the USA have had COVID and have little need for the jab. If they get sick we treat the survivors differently than the regime compliant? Yep, they have ZERO interest in straying from the singularly focused one size fits all narrative - vax everybody early and often. There is zero interest in understanding the existence and impact for those with natural immunity who may (or may not) have better protection than the vaxed. But, by that mentality, they WOULDNT get sick a second time, therefore they’d NEVER need to go to the hospital for Covid again. But wait….so now having Covid once doesn’t mean your free if the effects? Now I’m confused. All the anti-jabs keep saying their own antibodies are BETTER than the artificial ones. I guess if one is truly interested in antibodies vs shot effectiveness they can look at real world examples. Take Senator Rand Paul. His antibodies seem to be doing pretty well compared to other fully vaxxed swamp critters. Wouldn’t you agree?
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: John175☮]
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08/20/21 09:54 PM
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There is a lot more information that should be provided to the public so people can make the best decision for themself. Our local health department has been doing a pretty good job. They are finally adding vaccinated and unvaccinated in the numbers hospitalized and deceased. But it would be helpful if they posted those that had previous positive cases. One thing I have noticed is that the Delta variant is not only affecting younger and spreading faster, but it is killing people faster after they get diagnosed.
May you be treated the way you treat other people, today and everyday!
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: Mulejockey1]
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08/20/21 09:56 PM
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Last time I checked 37.5 million in the USA have had COVID and have little need for the jab. If they get sick we treat the survivors differently than the regime compliant? Yep, they have ZERO interest in straying from the singularly focused one size fits all narrative - vax everybody early and often. There is zero interest in understanding the existence and impact for those with natural immunity who may (or may not) have better protection than the vaxed. But, by that mentality, they WOULDNT get sick a second time, therefore they’d NEVER need to go to the hospital for Covid again. But wait….so now having Covid once doesn’t mean your free if the effects? Now I’m confused. All the anti-jabs keep saying their own antibodies are BETTER than the artificial ones. I guess if one is truly interested in antibodies vs shot effectiveness they can look at real world examples. Take Senator Rand Paul. His antibodies seem to be doing pretty well compared to other fully vaxxed swamp critters. Wouldn’t you agree? Welcome to the forum.  ..... He had his wife invest in some treatment when senators were briefed on a virus in China before any of us knew. Didn't report that nugget. And it isn't vetted and approved either. He is a moron. Said he forgot to hit enter 18 months ago,
Last edited by fish4bass; 08/20/21 09:59 PM.
And I know who "Jeff" is.
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: fish4bass]
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08/20/21 09:59 PM
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Welcome to the forum. ..... He had his wife invest in some treatment when senators were briefed on a virus in China before any of us knew. Didn't report that nugget. And it isn't vetted and approved either. He is a moron. You feeling less sad today S4B?
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: John175☮]
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08/20/21 10:09 PM
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This was shared by someone I know that works at this hospital. I am only posting this as it would very informative if we could see this type summary on the local hospitals. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2021/08/full-52248-108114-5ed5d97b_5dd6_4381_80d4_4ade54770142.jpeg)
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Re: Unvaccinated can die in the hallways
[Re: John175☮]
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08/20/21 10:10 PM
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Hey f4b, what specific treatment did Rand Paul get?
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