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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14066807 07/19/21 04:37 PM
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It seems like BASS did a good job. For the ones that were going to die or did die, what is wrong with fish tacos? It is a fish, they are good to eat, release the ones that are going to make it and fillet the rest. Good grief! Where this becomes a problem is when they have too many tournaments on the same lake and wreck a population without restocking.


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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: SteezMacQueen] #14066817 07/19/21 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted by Jack46
Originally Posted by Bruce Allen
It's nice when you can hide behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..

Allan, I hear you saying, “it’s nice when you can hide [your identity] behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..?” I take it that you really believe this personal value “is nice.” I would certainly not discount or shame your pride or your value you have place on your statement here. That says a lot about a person that willing to share values like this to the public so all can see a route you have chosen in your life. Thanks for sharing your value.

I am surprised that you would share personal values about yourself like this with me and the rest of the world on social media.
Your value statement sounds like normal modern journalism speak to me. Students are being taught this value at all levels of education k-12, in college through grad school and at work according to a cousin that teaches college journalism. For most people, this is quickly becoming a normal accepted every day America value that’s taught in public schools today. That deception is OK, normal and should be expected
Your comment reminds me of something William Barr, past US Attorney General said. On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History - by Jonah Goldberg - The Dispatch

“There is nothing sacred” or “what’s sacred to me means nothing to you.” Values are always relative to what we are taught, have learned and adopted.

History can be totally erased, changed and replaced in within 4-5 generations by motivated the winners with new agendas plus the support of mass media orgs., the right teachers in our educational systems, new religious teaching and new laws. This is normal cultural evolution, a dynamic process that is ongoing, alive and well.

I’m probably considered old fashion,“old school” Allen because I was taught, believe in and practice the personal value of truth and honesty I first learned from my parents when I was 3-4 YO.

You're probably a hard working good ole country boy with a poontoon live release boat business hauling tournament fish and we just have different values Allan, that's all.



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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Bass Buster1] #14066875 07/19/21 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass Buster1
It seems like BASS did a good job. For the ones that were going to die or did die, what is wrong with fish tacos? It is a fish, they are good to eat, release the ones that are going to make it and fillet the rest. Good grief! Where this becomes a problem is when they have too many tournaments on the same lake and wreck a population without restocking.


Best I can tell a few of the “hammers” on that pond are tit bags.

Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14066941 07/19/21 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack46
Originally Posted by Bruce Allen
It's nice when you can hide behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..

Allan, I hear you saying, “it’s nice when you can hide [your identity] behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..?” I take it that you really believe this personal value “is nice.” I would certainly not discount or shame your pride or your value you have place on your statement here. That says a lot about a person that willing to share values like this to the public so all can see a route you have chosen in your life. Thanks for sharing your value.

I am surprised that you would share personal values about yourself like this with me and the rest of the world on social media.
Your value statement sounds like normal modern journalism speak to me. Students are being taught this value at all levels of education k-12, in college through grad school and at work according to a cousin that teaches college journalism. For most people, this is quickly becoming a normal accepted every day America value that’s taught in public schools today. That deception is OK, normal and should be expected
Your comment reminds me of something William Barr, past US Attorney General said. On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History - by Jonah Goldberg - The Dispatch

“There is nothing sacred” or “what’s sacred to me means nothing to you.” Values are always relative to what we are taught, have learned and adopted.

History can be totally erased, changed and replaced in within 4-5 generations by motivated the winners with new agendas plus the support of mass media orgs., the right teachers in our educational systems, new religious teaching and new laws. This is normal cultural evolution, a dynamic process that is ongoing, alive and well.

I’m probably considered old fashion,“old school” Allen because I was taught, believe in and practice the personal value of truth and honesty I first learned from my parents when I was 3-4 YO.

You're probably a hard working good ole country boy with a poontoon live release boat business hauling tournament fish and we just have different values Allan, that's all.


TF are you talking about

Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14066999 07/19/21 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack46
Originally Posted by Bruce Allen
It's nice when you can hide behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..

Allan, I hear you saying, “it’s nice when you can hide [your identity] behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..?” I take it that you really believe this personal value “is nice.” I would certainly not discount or shame your pride or your value you have place on your statement here. That says a lot about a person that willing to share values like this to the public so all can see a route you have chosen in your life. Thanks for sharing your value.

I am surprised that you would share personal values about yourself like this with me and the rest of the world on social media.
Your value statement sounds like normal modern journalism speak to me. Students are being taught this value at all levels of education k-12, in college through grad school and at work according to a cousin that teaches college journalism. For most people, this is quickly becoming a normal accepted every day America value that’s taught in public schools today. That deception is OK, normal and should be expected
Your comment reminds me of something William Barr, past US Attorney General said. On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History - by Jonah Goldberg - The Dispatch

“There is nothing sacred” or “what’s sacred to me means nothing to you.” Values are always relative to what we are taught, have learned and adopted.

History can be totally erased, changed and replaced in within 4-5 generations by motivated the winners with new agendas plus the support of mass media orgs., the right teachers in our educational systems, new religious teaching and new laws. This is normal cultural evolution, a dynamic process that is ongoing, alive and well.

I’m probably considered old fashion,“old school” Allen because I was taught, believe in and practice the personal value of truth and honesty I first learned from my parents when I was 3-4 YO.

You're probably a hard working good ole country boy with a poontoon live release boat business hauling tournament fish and we just have different values Allan, that's all.


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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14067081 07/19/21 09:08 PM
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Never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d see Jonah Goldberg quoted in the bass section. Wild.


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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14067187 07/19/21 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack46
Originally Posted by Bruce Allen
It's nice when you can hide behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..

Allan, I hear you saying, “it’s nice when you can hide [your identity] behind a "handle" and then write anything you want true or not..?” I take it that you really believe this personal value “is nice.” I would certainly not discount or shame your pride or your value you have place on your statement here. That says a lot about a person that willing to share values like this to the public so all can see a route you have chosen in your life. Thanks for sharing your value.

I am surprised that you would share personal values about yourself like this with me and the rest of the world on social media.
Your value statement sounds like normal modern journalism speak to me. Students are being taught this value at all levels of education k-12, in college through grad school and at work according to a cousin that teaches college journalism. For most people, this is quickly becoming a normal accepted every day America value that’s taught in public schools today. That deception is OK, normal and should be expected
Your comment reminds me of something William Barr, past US Attorney General said. On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History On Winners and Losers and Who Writes the History - by Jonah Goldberg - The Dispatch

“There is nothing sacred” or “what’s sacred to me means nothing to you.” Values are always relative to what we are taught, have learned and adopted.

History can be totally erased, changed and replaced in within 4-5 generations by motivated the winners with new agendas plus the support of mass media orgs., the right teachers in our educational systems, new religious teaching and new laws. This is normal cultural evolution, a dynamic process that is ongoing, alive and well.

I’m probably considered old fashion,“old school” Allen because I was taught, believe in and practice the personal value of truth and honesty I first learned from my parents when I was 3-4 YO.

You're probably a hard working good ole country boy with a poontoon live release boat business hauling tournament fish and we just have different values Allan, that's all.




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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: 9094] #14067290 07/20/21 12:06 AM
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Actually black bass are tasty with a nice seasoning. BUT BLACK BASS LIVES MATTER!!!


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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: junk baits] #14067317 07/20/21 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by junk baits
Actually black bass are tasty with a nice seasoning. BUT BLACK BASS LIVES MATTER!!!


Agree. We eat black bass a few times a month. I take the fish that are struggling or dying from tournaments and clean them.
The big ones I cook on the half shell on the grill.

Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14068198 07/20/21 08:53 PM
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Hey 46, isn't it kind of disrespectful addressing someone by their last name only? Are you truly that egotistical? Do you really feel that you are that much superior to everyone else? You could at least have the courtesy to preface their last name with Mr., as in Mr. Perry or Mr. Allen. And although I have not met either of the afore-mentioned gentlemen, I have infinitely more respect for them than I will ever have for you


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Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: 9094] #14068295 07/20/21 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 9094
Originally Posted by junk baits
Actually black bass are tasty with a nice seasoning. BUT BLACK BASS LIVES MATTER!!!


Agree. We eat black bass a few times a month. I take the fish that are struggling or dying from tournaments and clean them.
The big ones I cook on the half shell on the grill.

People that eat bass – Take a moment and check this bass care publication. This was published by ESPN Productions, Inc./B.A.S.S. 19 years ago and this bell still ring true today.

This section is about bass, livewell additives and chemical dips contamination and expert opinions by some of those over-thinkers.

Keeping Bass Alive, A Guidebook for Anglers and Tournament Organizers
http://assets.espn.go.com/winnercomm/outdoors/bassmaster/pdf/Keeping_Bass_Alive.pdf

Gene Gilliland, et.al.
Published by: ESPN Productions, Inc./B.A.S.S.
5854 Carmichael Rd.
Montgomery, AL 36117
Copyright 2002 B.A.S.S.* Montgomery, AL

CHEMICALS


As noted in an earlier section, fish under stress take in more water than normal, diluting their blood. This creates an osmotic imbalance in their systems that can cause delayed mortality. By keeping the salinity of the water in the livewell near what their blood should be, you reduce the effects of stress. To achieve this, make a 0.5 percent solution by adding noniodized salt at a rate of 1/3 cup per 5 gallons of water. It may be convenient to pre-measure the salt into plastic bags and carry several with you for use during the day. Remember that every time you flush half the water from the livewell and refill with fresh water, you will need to add more salt.
Some commercial water conditioners that are reported to calm the fish, reduce stress, replace lost mucus coating, help regulate salt balance, and fight infections, contain chemicals that are not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug KEEPING BASS ALIVE – pg 20

Chapter Two Administration for use on fish that may be treated, released, then caught again at a later date and possibly eaten by humans. State and federal fisheries agencies cannot recommend the use of these products, not because of ineffectiveness, but because the ingredients have not been certified as safe for human contact or consumption.
“Use noniodized salt at a rate of 1/3 cup per 5 gallons of water.”

Another chemical that has sometimes been used to treat livewell or holding tank water is hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). Hydrogen peroxide breaks down into oxygen and water in the presence of organic material. However, this chemical can injure fish and SHOULD NOT BE USED.
Most people have used this colorless, odorless, tasteless liquid to disinfect a cut or scratch. You can see it fizzing and bubbling on the skin as it oxidizes. Now imagine what it does in a livewell full of bass. The bass’ mucus coating protects its skin from the oxidation reaction, but there is no such protective coating on the delicate gill filaments. Unfortunately, anglers who use hydrogen peroxide often think that if a little is good, a little more should be better. Wrong! Damage to gill filaments, suffocation and death may result.
“Do not use hydrogen peroxide in the livewell!” pg 21

B.A.S.S., State DNR’s and State Fishery Departments all continue this 19 year old stance on using livewell chemical dips for C&R tournament bass and contaminated food fish (bass) that humans catch and eat to date.

Here’s a published opinion from TP&WD Inland Firheries biologist:
Catch and Release Guidelines, Livewell Management Livewell Management (texas.gov)
“Never use commercial water additives unless they are in agreement with FDA and EPA regulations.”

Careful what kind of fish you eat. Do not eat Shark, Swordfish, King Mackerel, or Tilefish from the Gulf of Mexico because they contain high levels of mercury. These fish are chemically contaminated too.

I don’t know anyone that eats black bass. Careful what kind of fish you eat and feed your kids.
Enjoy the read.

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Originally Posted by TinRangerJim
Hey 46, isn't it kind of disrespectful addressing someone by their last name only? Are you truly that egotistical? Do you really feel that you are that much superior to everyone else? You could at least have the courtesy to preface their last name with Mr., as in Mr. Perry or Mr. Allen. And although I have not met either of the afore-mentioned gentlemen, I have infinitely more respect for them than I will ever have for you

Hey Tin Man, your spin-off is duly noted.

You may not have known what this thread is about. Let’s refocus, it’s about BassMaster Classic 2021 livewell Chemicals and Supplements. Now you know, just refocus.

I can see you’re having a pity party today. Hopefully tomorrow you will feel better and have something positive or constructive to add?
I hope so.

Re: BassMaster Classic 2021 Livewell chemicals and supplements requirements [Re: Jack46] #14068346 07/20/21 11:22 PM
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This topic always goes off the rails, 100 percent of time.

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Originally Posted by WAWI
This topic always goes off the rails, 100 percent of time.



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