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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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01/24/21 01:26 AM
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Flippin-Out
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A solution I'm pondering for "if/when I need it" is to continue to keep/run a honker AGM for the boat's main battery, but to segregate the bus feed to my electronics fuse panel. (I wired my boat's electronics this way to give the option.) That would let me easily add a 5th battery that would power electronic accessories only. That battery could small/light, such as a 50AH Lithium. If that 50AH battery ever did fail to last a full day, I could easily move the single bus wire feeding the dedicated electronics fuse panel over to the AGM for the remaining fishing time. Only a engineer would come up with a solution for a problem that does not exist. Adding a 5th battery is stupid and not needed they sell batteries that will meet your needs. If youve got any common sense at all youll be the first engineer Ive ever met with any. You aren't noting that I said "IF". My lost likely suspicion is that the Group 31 AGM will suffice. There's still a chance testing the worst case scenario could show otherwise. A 5th battery that's small, lightweight, and not terribly expensive over time is NOT stupid if I were to learn that running my electrical load for a long day won't do. If you want to flag stupid, look elsewhere; it certainly abounds in bass fishing. Start with hauling a charger of up to 30 pounds in weight around a lake all day when there are no AC receptacles to power it. The battery I might add weighs half the weight of the charger I removed, and takes up less space. Ridiculous gadgets and solutions that qualify as laughable abound. Instead of reading carefully (reading comprehension issues?) you chose to assert that I might qualify as "stupid" or "lacking common sense." I assure you the personal attack is totally unfounded, and you must have met some rather pathetic engineers. Actually, that you resort to personal derogatory comment would say that possibly you are the one who lacks common sense? How do you know what my electrical load will be, or how many hours I spend on the water in an outing?
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Fishn_man]
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01/24/21 01:45 AM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Easy bud. I know my amp load. Apparently you don’t know your own or you would know what you need for a battery.
Either way I’m running 5 12” graphs two live scope two livewells mega 360 hydro wave radio all on one battery. I’ve shared that Info many times.
A 5th battery is stupid if you choose to take that as a derogatory comment about you personally that is on you.
You think you have it all figured out because you took out your charger but talk about carrying a 5th battery.......
You have proven my point about common sense.
Last edited by Jeff From Iowa; 01/24/21 02:08 AM.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Fishn_man]
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01/24/21 02:58 AM
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grout-scout
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Jeff, are you running dual lvs 32’s on the TM or 1 there and one on the transom?
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: grout-scout]
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01/24/21 02:22 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Jeff, are you running dual lvs 32’s on the TM or 1 there and one on the transom? two on tm, one in each view, two screens. Havent had the panoramic view help much if at all yet, but also didnt have it on in the spring. Should be good for bed fish, in Iowa the water is NEVER clear enough to see any fish on beds.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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01/24/21 05:21 PM
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Grant2
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Easy bud. I know my amp load. Apparently you don’t know your own or you would know what you need for a battery.
Either way I’m running 5 12” graphs two live scope two livewells mega 360 hydro wave radio all on one battery. I’ve shared that Info many times.
A 5th battery is stupid if you choose to take that as a derogatory comment about you personally that is on you.
You think you have it all figured out because you took out your charger but talk about carrying a 5th battery.......
You have proven my point about common sense. Your running 5 graphs? Are you fishing or just watching TV all day LOL!
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Fishn_man]
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01/25/21 04:52 PM
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firefighter196965
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Has anyone looked into batteries from TOBattery ? They seem to have everyone beat on price. Not looking for brand loyalty or bashing here, just curious if anyone has any dealings with them.
Last edited by firefighter196965; 01/25/21 04:56 PM.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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01/25/21 06:09 PM
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bassnman
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How low can you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Renogy-12V-100AH-200AH-Rechargeable-Deep-Cycle-Hybrid-GEL-Battery-Solar-Marine/274398651684?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130048%26meid%3Ded01a3f5c3424aaead670bc4be893e8a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dco%26sd%3D284142963189%26itm%3D274398651684%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DRenogy&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
100ah for $217. THAT is not lithium. Ooooooops! My bad.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: jfdawson]
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01/25/21 07:01 PM
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CrankBass
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: firefighter196965]
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01/25/21 07:06 PM
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grout-scout
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Has anyone looked into batteries from TOBattery ? They seem to have everyone beat on price. Not looking for brand loyalty or bashing here, just curious if anyone has any dealings with them. First I’ve seen of that one, there’s a bunch on eBay of different names. Only problem that might come from a no name, warranty and getting a replacement.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Fishn_man]
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01/25/21 10:12 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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I posted those a page or two ago. Cheapest I’ve seen.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: CrankBass]
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01/26/21 12:23 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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I did not get a pm from you. Jeff
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Chris 70]
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01/26/21 06:04 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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36ah for 120 each would be great for most fun fisherman. I’ve seen a few guys run those.
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Fishn_man]
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01/26/21 08:23 PM
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JBranham
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I know RELiON is not as inexpensive as some of these posted but they have great technical sales that can help you to design a system to fit your needs and excellent customer and technical service to help. Please forgive me for my bias but when I bought my setup (over 2 years ago) there weren't all these options flooding the market, basically Lithum Pro and RELiON, so I chose a company that I deemed reputable and they have thus far. To me these are big expensive purchases and I didn't want to take the risk of buying some of these other, cheaper, versions just to save a buck up front. I've had one fail and I would have been pissed if I was left out to dry so make sure you have support from whoever you purchase from. RELiON had me go through the paces to make sure the battery was at fault but when we did they sent me a brand new replacement as quickly as possible. Here is a cool technical data sheet explanation done by RELiON, just thought I would share some good information. https://youtu.be/BT8cHqY3epc
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Re: Lithium Batteries
[Re: Fishn_man]
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02/02/21 04:01 AM
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Grant2
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I bought 2 ionic 12V 50ah batteries for my trolling motor and finally got the chance Saturday to try them out. All I can say is WOW! These batteries are everything they say they are. I ran my trolling motor for 6hr straight with a 15-20mph North wind and checked the Bluetooth app and still shows 90% charge. I worked these batteries hard fighting the wind went home around 1:00pm just wish the fish where biting LOL!
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