Why do you need charge status, your charger blinks green when they are charged. The app is stupid, I have a ionic start battery due to wanting the 125 ah for good measure but I havent used the app after the first two days I fished 11 hours with no big engine to make sure it could take it, now that I know it can no need to worry about it.

If you happened to be an angler who runs down 3 Group 29 batteries, I would expect that angler would be sorely disappointed with a single-case 36V solution - ANY of them. The scenario in which the most gain is realized is when replacing an equal number of batteries with Lithium technology at a similar Amp-Hour rating. For instance, if you run 3 100AH AGM batteries, and you go with 3 50AH Lithium batteries, you may be fine if you are a casual fisherman, but if you fish hard, expect to run out of juice at about the same point as you had been previously. Where you get the boost is when replacing 3 100AH wet cell batteries with 3 100AH Lithium batteries, for example. The reason for the boost is that the Lithium cells keep delivering power longer (than wet cells) - their discharge curve is delayed but sharp once it is tripped.

Yes, Pros use the single-case 36V battery solution, but I have never seen one who did it with just ONE of those batteries. The guys happiest with Lithium are typically ones that do the replacement in the 1 for 1 upgrade. The 3 battery swap upgrade provides 100AH in a 36V system. That's far superior to a case where you hope that 60 AH @ 36V will be enough. Note that most 100AH Lithiums are in a Group 27 case, smaller than your Group 29, helping with space.

Why would we need gas gauges, same concept here. They aren’t supposed to be charged after every use and I’d like to know when it’s getting low.

Same for the TM batteries, do you just guess when they are getting low and need recharged.


The app might be stupid, but it still has its purpose.

Seems like information gets more confusing(and conflicting) every day. Maybe it’s partially because people spew out information they only heard somewhere and quote it as fact? 🤔🤪 Now I’m hearing(on the TFF also) DO NOT plug your lithium battery’s into a charger until they are down to a certain point, life is shortened by storing them “full”, blue tooth monitor them so you know when to charge......Not for one second saying lithium’s are not the future of batteries but DANG some of this information makes it sound confusing. While I don’t like the “limited” life and weight of my big/heavy group 29 AGM’s I sure do like plugging in my onboard “automatic” 4 bank MinnKota charger when I get back from the lake and then never thinking about it again until I leave for the lake the next time.

You would plug in after each trip and unplug a day later or whenever all your charger lights show green then your ready to go, no need to top them off again before you go.

Yes. Simple question: Total price “out the door” for the 3-100amp batteries? TY

Can you leave them plugged in 24/7/365 like an AGM?

Umm nobody any place says not to charge them after every use. NOBODY., you most certainly can charge them after every use... for long term storage (6 months) they suggest not storing them full.

Not sure why I’m wasting my time arguing with you, but here I am. Keeping a lithium at full charge will shorten its life, it’s a fact, google it if you don’t believe me. Every manufacturer will tell you that you do NOT want to keep it charged at 100%. They all say to charge it before use.


For anyone thats “confused”...don’t listen to Jeff, listen to the guys that sell the batteries.

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