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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Jeff From Iowa] #13846252 01/14/21 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff From Iowa
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Best deal I have seen , 899 $ for a 36v battery and going to free up 200lbs .. sold



I wouldnt want to use less than 50ah for trolling motor batteries, that said some guys do use 35 or 40 but they only fun fish for sure.

30 day money back guarantee , will give it a try.



Im not a fan of one battery like that. I travel a lot if it had a issue I would be buying 3 to keep going. w 3 separate batteries if one has a issue I can buy just one and keep going.

50ah are small and are as low as 350 ea on amazon

Be willing to bet it would be better than my current setup (3 continental group 31 and fish sun up to sun down ) and last longer .

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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Fishn_man] #13846284 01/14/21 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BROWNING STRONG



Be willing to bet it would be better than my current setup (3 continental group 31 and fish sun up to sun down ) and last longer .



$150 more for 3 50 ah seems smarter to me, but to each his own, just trying to help you out.

Ive had my lithiums 3 years, my 50ah shut off on me once, a windy day 12-15mph, on tm or spot lock all day, no talon use.

IF that 40ah doesnt cut it, youll be forced to buy another 40ah or sell it for a loss...

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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Fishn_man] #13850750 01/18/21 03:00 PM
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I just switched to Ionic batteries this week and can’t wait to try them out. They are super light and the Bluetooth app is pretty cool. What gets me about some people is they have $50,000-80,000 for a boat and $2500 trolling motor $5000 in graphs and $3500 in power poles, but won’t spend the money on lithium battery and head to Walmart for the cheapest battery they can get away with LOL!

Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: JBranham] #13851148 01/18/21 08:45 PM
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I don't see how this technology could possibly be safely feasible right now. I'm not read up on it at all, so take that with a grain of salt, but I have knowledge of lithium batteries in RC cars and you have to walk on eggshells charging those. The other concern I would have is the integrity of the batteries themselves. A lot of times with the RC Lithium batteries when they get damaged from bumping around and tend to puff out making them dangerous and oftentimes, unusable. I wonder how the current lithium's will hold up to pounding that the lake will put on them.



Strange I never had a single issue when I raced off road rc cars. And that was in the 90s Im sure the batteries are better now. I still have my rc car from back then and all my batteries still work fine in fact every time I get it out which is about once every 7 years.




Newer technology vs. what you heard from the early stages of lithium have come a long ways and are much safer than the earlier, more volatile versions.

Back when I raced RC cars (2000's until 4-5 years ago) LIPO technology available at that time came in soft packs, could get damaged easily and catch fire, catch fire while charging, etc... I watched as off-road RC cars landed wrong, shut down, and caught fire and thought, glad I race Nitro cars... lol

You know who else used to be one hell of a RC car driver, Jeff Welch of Bass Champs. We use to race together when we were kids. lol

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Technology has improved and most chemistries you see used now is LiFePO4 which has proved to be much safer, less volatile, and are mostly encased in hard shells to keep from getting damaged.

https://medium.com/battery-lab/a-lifepo4-battery-vs-lithium-ion-polymer-battery-6a028111efa3

Lithium-ion polymer (LIPO) battery
A lithium ion polymer battery is a kind of rechargeable battery that mainly relies on the movement of lithium ions between positive electrode and negative electrode to work. Lithium ion batteries use an intercalated lithium compound as an electrode material. At present, the commonly used cathode materials for lithium ion batteries are: lithium cobalt oxide (LCO battery), lithium manganate (LMO battery), lithium-ion ternary (NCA, NMC battery), and lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4 battery).


Lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4, LFP) battery
A lithium iron phosphate battery is a type of lithium ion polymer battery that uses LiFePO4 as the cathode material and a graphitic carbon electrode with a metallic backing as the anode.
The LiFePO4 battery, also called the LFP battery, is a type of rechargeable battery. It is the safest Lithium battery type currently available on the market today. It is made to be small in size and light in weight, and the cycle life can reach thousands of cycles.

I was too nervous at first , along with the price of these batteries, and held off for some time but finally decided to make the change. I run REliON batteries now, (2) RB-100 (100Ah) for trolling and I run a RB-100HP for cranking and electronics and absolutely love them. I also recently added the Power Pole Charge and now only plug into shore power every once in a while to make sure everything balances properly.

Lots of $ spent but well worth it to be on the water as long as I want without any worries.



Awesome information here. Great post.

Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Fishn_man] #13851875 01/19/21 02:03 PM
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The major problem I see with a lithium starter battery is Mercury recommends and AMG for starting purposes... I'd hate to have a problem and have Mercury turn down a warranty claim because I used the wrong type battery... Everyone preaches get a used boat with warranty still left, or purchase the extended warranty... Well, if you're gonna go to all that trouble, and money, only to void the warranty on the engine... I'm like a lot of guy on this topic... Until lithium batteries price come down I'm staying with lead batteries... And, if they ever do come down to the price point of lead they'll have similar warranties... Dan


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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Fishn_man] #13853229 01/20/21 02:01 PM
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BOOM this went down last night. Swapped out the 3-50amp for the 100amp. Highly recommend the Ionic Lithiums. You can get them from Andrew at Drewcraft.com. Ran them for 2 years and not one problem. Upgraded to the larger ones as I will be fishing the NPFL tour this year and cannot wait. If you have questions, just let me know....tight lines.

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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)] #13853234 01/20/21 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)
BOOM this went down last night. Swapped out the 3-50amp for the 100amp. Highly recommend the Ionic Lithiums. You can get them from Andrew at Drewcraft.com. Ran them for 2 years and not one problem. Upgraded to the larger ones as I will be fishing the NPFL tour this year and cannot wait. If you have questions, just let me know....tight lines.

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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Dan21XRS] #13853291 01/20/21 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan21XRS
The major problem I see with a lithium starter battery is Mercury recommends and AMG for starting purposes... I'd hate to have a problem and have Mercury turn down a warranty claim because I used the wrong type battery... Everyone preaches get a used boat with warranty still left, or purchase the extended warranty... Well, if you're gonna go to all that trouble, and money, only to void the warranty on the engine... I'm like a lot of guy on this topic... Until lithium batteries price come down I'm staying with lead batteries... And, if they ever do come down to the price point of lead they'll have similar warranties... Dan



The warranty is not voided.

Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)] #13853316 01/20/21 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)
BOOM this went down last night. Swapped out the 3-50amp for the 100amp. If you have questions, just let me know....tight lines.

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Yes. Simple question: Total price “out the door” for the 3-100amp batteries? TY

Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)] #13853349 01/20/21 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)
BOOM this went down last night. Swapped out the 3-50amp for the 100amp. Highly recommend the Ionic Lithiums. You can get them from Andrew at Drewcraft.com. Ran them for 2 years and not one problem. Upgraded to the larger ones as I will be fishing the NPFL tour this year and cannot wait. If you have questions, just let me know....tight lines.

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You selling your old ones or did you trade them in?

Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: hoss1324] #13853375 01/20/21 03:33 PM
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Commerical interruptions are the worst. Seriously though, 50 amps is about half of the amps from a standard lead acid deep cycle trolling battery, the 125 amp is over $1000. Even if the last over 10 years, you could still stay under that price point if you bought new 50 amp lead acid battery 2 years and still not hot the break even point. Why would anyone pay that price?

For. 125 ah battery to make sense, assuming a warranty of at least 5 years the price would have to be at the most $500, and around $225 for a 50 amp. Big lipos just don't make financial sense yet for american retailers, but then again from unit cost I'm sure they are marking them up 400% from chinese suppliers, and that from what I've seen alibaba.




There are 100ah lithiums on amazon for 536 each, 10 year warranty... yes they are all from china in fact you can get the ones Ionic has branded in any color you want and call them yours.

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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Jeff From Iowa] #13854046 01/20/21 11:20 PM
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Jeff do you have a link for these $536 100ah batteries? The link above is not them. Thx

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Jeff do you have a link for these $536 100ah batteries? The link above is not them. Thx



yes sorry, 539 two errors

I just search 100ah or whatever ah you want.. lithium battery on amazon and ebay there are new cheaper options popping up weekly it seems.

https://www.amazon.com/LiFePO4-Batt...a1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Fishn_man] #13854188 01/21/21 12:44 AM
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Re: Lithium Batteries [Re: Fishn_man] #13854194 01/21/21 12:50 AM
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Jeff, not saying for a second that these aren’t the best batteries available......but “CHINS”? Man IDK!!! 🤔🤪 JK! Prices are really dropping.....[Linked Image]

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