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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Jimfishes] #13832097 01/04/21 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimfishes
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Johnny has either p***ed a lot of people off or something is up with the Ranger brand. Lot of defections this year it seems.


I read Ranger has stated they are going more towards sponsoring lower tier pro's and I SUSPECT the YouTube people. Don't know how true but by lord it sure appears true.

Plus yeah I think Johnny just really making people mad. I know I'll never buy a boat he owns. I think what he is doing should be illegal. Dang monopoly he creating.



What am I missing? How is JM making people mad? Why won't you ever buy a boat he owns? Educate the rest of us fishermen please.

Just funnin. If your a Ranger or Johnny minion no reason get up tight. Ranger has had a mass defection. I don’t know the reason but I don’t see you losing the anglers that have moved on unless something is up. (Christie, Monroe, Cody Meyer, Martin), those are some stout long running names to leave your brand.

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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Sinkey] #13832146 01/04/21 11:44 PM
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Them young “googan” types in Jr high ain’t buying $75k+ boats.


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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: SteezMacQueen] #13832150 01/04/21 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Them young “googan” types in Jr high ain’t buying $75k+ boats.



But their parents are.

Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Mark Perry] #13832247 01/05/21 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
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Them young “googan” types in Jr high ain’t buying $75k+ boats.



But their parents are.


Yup, plenty of kids around here rocking $200k wakeboard boats on their parents dime.

Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Sinkey] #13832248 01/05/21 12:52 AM
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Ranger initiated most of the angler dumping. This includes touring professionals and regional guys.
There are some exceptions, with an example being Jason C.

Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: tmd11111] #13832307 01/05/21 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tmd11111
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Them young “googan” types in Jr high ain’t buying $75k+ boats.



But their parents are.


Yup, plenty of kids around here rocking $200k wakeboard boats on their parents dime.


Yeah a 100K (outfitted) bass boat is just chump change to some of them! cheers


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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: BigDozer66] #13832369 01/05/21 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDozer66
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Them young “googan” types in Jr high ain’t buying $75k+ boats.



But their parents are.


Yup, plenty of kids around here rocking $200k wakeboard boats on their parents dime.


Yeah a 100K (outfitted) bass boat is just chump change to some of them! cheers

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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: ChanceHuiet] #13832585 01/05/21 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ChanceHuiet

Well first, I've heard horror stories from people including one of my best friends that own rangers less than 2 years old that have issues ranger won't even touch. They just keep getting the run around with their warranties. And as for me not buying a boat he owns, well thats personal preference. Nothing to educate about. I dont like how he is he doing the industry to make a buck. Him and Duckett both. Look at all the guys who left ranger or got dropped. And word on the street is quite a few have willingly left.

It's kinda of what Rather Outdoors is doing with Strike King and Lews. They told the prostaff you rep both companies or your gone. Not either or. To me that's bull but hey their company their rules.

But it all boils down to my opinion. Plain and simple.


I think this has a good bit to do with it. I think people like Cody Myer who was Tackle Warehouse, Daiwa, Strike King, Ranger were told they need to be Bass Pro/Cabelas, Lew's, Strike King, Ranger going forward. He's now in a Blazer boat and has mention the Jack Hammer and not the Thunder Cricket in a couple of posts.

Ish Monroe as Bass Pro, Daiwa, Ranger. Now he's Fisherman's Warehouse, Daiwa, Skeeter.

Also saw that Mark Zona is now with Lew's, who was previously a few seasons with Daiwa. So now he's under the "same two umbrella" with Bass Pro, Nitro, Lew's, Strike King.

This is all speculations and just what I've pieced together watching social media & pod casts so take it all with a grain of salt.


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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Mark Perry] #13832603 01/05/21 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
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Them young “googan” types in Jr high ain’t buying $75k+ boats.



But their parents are.

I think this is the main reason. Young people influence their parents and it's an untapped market that the YouTube crowd has really tapped in to. That and with so much coverage it doesnt take as many pros to reach that part of the market. YouTube is also very transparent in what reach a person has where a pro isnt so I think it's easier for a sponsor to track analytics from website clicks and stuff from that person's media and see just how many people are watching their videos. Overall, it's mainly just that there is so much coverage and media that I dont think a pros impact is as needed as it once was. Now, maybe that's just what it appears to be and the trend could reverse back to pro sponsorships

Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Monty Wright] #13832649 01/05/21 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Monty Wright
Originally Posted by ChanceHuiet

Well first, I've heard horror stories from people including one of my best friends that own rangers less than 2 years old that have issues ranger won't even touch. They just keep getting the run around with their warranties. And as for me not buying a boat he owns, well thats personal preference. Nothing to educate about. I dont like how he is he doing the industry to make a buck. Him and Duckett both. Look at all the guys who left ranger or got dropped. And word on the street is quite a few have willingly left.

It's kinda of what Rather Outdoors is doing with Strike King and Lews. They told the prostaff you rep both companies or your gone. Not either or. To me that's bull but hey their company their rules.

But it all boils down to my opinion. Plain and simple.


I think this has a good bit to do with it. I think people like Cody Myer who was Tackle Warehouse, Daiwa, Strike King, Ranger were told they need to be Bass Pro/Cabelas, Lew's, Strike King, Ranger going forward. He's now in a Blazer boat and has mention the Jack Hammer and not the Thunder Cricket in a couple of posts.

Ish Monroe as Bass Pro, Daiwa, Ranger. Now he's Fisherman's Warehouse, Daiwa, Skeeter.

Also saw that Mark Zona is now with Lew's, who was previously a few seasons with Daiwa. So now he's under the "same two umbrella" with Bass Pro, Nitro, Lew's, Strike King.

This is all speculations and just what I've pieced together watching social media & pod casts so take it all with a grain of salt.

The Zona move is not surprising. He is a Strike King guy first so the move to Lews just follows suit with the rest of SK anglers that switched to Lews.

Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Sinkey] #13832909 01/05/21 04:15 PM
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Some people build businesses with the sole purpose of becoming an acquisition target. No sure why everyone gets mad at the person buying the business and not the guy who sold the business. confused 3 I mean the seller is the one who ruined the brand chasing the almighty dollar. They knew who they were selling to yet took the money and ran.

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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13832937 01/05/21 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
The big numbers buying new stuff follow youtube, insta, etc. Sometimes we get caught up in the "tournament" world but in reality it's a very small part of the product being moved as a whole. It's the young kids "Googan" generation


I'm still trying to figure out what "Googan" is? Guess I'm to old to understand.


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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Phoenix_Ed] #13832955 01/05/21 04:52 PM
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The big numbers buying new stuff follow youtube, insta, etc. Sometimes we get caught up in the "tournament" world but in reality it's a very small part of the product being moved as a whole. It's the young kids "Googan" generation


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Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Sinkey] #13832980 01/05/21 05:15 PM
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As a younger dude who has fished THSBA(Texas High School Bass Association) tournaments, I can say that this is all partially true.

The YouTubers have gotten a lot of people into fishing, but with most of them just remaining bank/pond fishermen. There are a lot of kids who get their parents to buy a bass boat. With that said I don't think the YouTubers advertise their boat sponsors or have much influence on what brand of boat their parents buy. Of course this may change with a switch in marketing tactics. (I am not 100% sure on all of this but this is what I think as a younger dude).

It seems that many of these newer YouTubers do not actually go in depth and their primary goal is just entertainment, so I don't think they actually help someone who wants to do good in tournaments. With that said they are still getting many younger people into fishing (As previously stated).

I myself do not watch the Googans or many of the other YouTubers. I just watch tacticalbassin and Scott Martin's tournament videos(yes, he does entertainment too but I take more stock into what he says because he is an actual professional).

Re: Ish and Scott Martin now with Skeeter! [Re: Sinkey] #13833257 01/05/21 09:22 PM
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Couple more good guys and sticks added. Looks like Todd and Jason from Rayburn went Skeeter as well.

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