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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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11/19/20 10:06 PM
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Techfisher
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LOL Uncle Zeek....how appropriate...Keith Richards makes some of the geriatrics in Congress look positively young...:) He will never die...he is preserved by mysterious substances...:)
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: hopalong]
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11/19/20 10:18 PM
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minnow
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? I would point out your inconsistencies and outright wrongness but you along with all the other liberal/socialists have closed your mind to facts/truth and anything that would disparage your expected election results. You argue like the guy you are defending- just act smug, call names and label others without any facts to backup your words. Just bully any and everyone around you to get your way. What a sad existence if you look up to this guy for leadership. Big talk without any substance. It wasn't hard to see this type of election chaos developing- he'd been sowing the seeds for this as his popularity waned in the face of the covid crisis. He'd saw the handwriting on the wall and took the country down this road. Not the way to make America great again. My point about the election is I don't believe it has to be rigged for him to lose- he didn't win the popular vote last time, he narrowly won a group of the swing states at that time to take the electoral college. Do you think he actually won over the hearts of many people during the last four years or just maintained his base?
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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11/19/20 10:19 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Judging by the rally's I think we both know that answer.
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
#13777450
11/19/20 10:21 PM
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Mark Perry
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? I would point out your inconsistencies and outright wrongness but you along with all the other liberal/socialists have closed your mind to facts/truth and anything that would disparage your expected election results. You argue like the guy you are defending- just act smug, call names and label others without any facts to backup your words. Just bully any and everyone around you to get your way. What a sad existence if you look up to this guy for leadership. Big talk without any substance. It wasn't hard to see this type of election chaos developing- he'd been sowing the seeds for this as his popularity waned in the face of the covid crisis. He'd saw the handwriting on the wall and took the country down this road. Not the way to make America great again. My point about the election is I don't believe it has to be rigged for him to lose- he didn't win the popular vote last time, he narrowly won a group of the swing states at that time to take the electoral college. Do you think he actually won over the hearts of many people during the last four years or just maintained his base? Trump won an even larger amount of black and Hispanic votes than in 2016. Yes, he won over some hearts.
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
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11/19/20 10:28 PM
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J.P. Greeson
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? I would point out your inconsistencies and outright wrongness but you along with all the other liberal/socialists have closed your mind to facts/truth and anything that would disparage your expected election results. You argue like the guy you are defending- just act smug, call names and label others without any facts to backup your words. Just bully any and everyone around you to get your way. What a sad existence if you look up to this guy for leadership. Big talk without any substance. It wasn't hard to see this type of election chaos developing- he'd been sowing the seeds for this as his popularity waned in the face of the covid crisis. He'd saw the handwriting on the wall and took the country down this road. Not the way to make America great again. My point about the election is I don't believe it has to be rigged for him to lose- he didn't win the popular vote last time, he narrowly won a group of the swing states at that time to take the electoral college. Do you think he actually won over the hearts of many people during the last four years or just maintained his base? Once again, stop making this personal. Present the facts without your opinion of your fellow TFF members.
The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be. --John Gierach
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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11/20/20 01:03 AM
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Tsunami_1
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Kinda like walking around in an empty house. Where did everyone go?
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Sawhorse]
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11/20/20 01:20 AM
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1442
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LOOK! A democrat telling the truth. That's unusual Enjoy the frosty Shiner Moto Moto
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
#13777712
11/20/20 01:21 AM
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stroker46
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You know in your heart it is rigged, and you should be concerned. We are America, an example to the rest of the world. If it was fair, no worries, but no legit person sees all these strange happenings and doesn't realize your vote and country is being corrupted. Stand your ground for Libtards, but be concerned if its not on the up and up, because once you lose the voting process of this amazing and unique country there is no other place to go with the same freedoms and opportunities. It has to be rigged i absolutely think it was and is. I can’t believe trump would get so many votes after over three years of acting like himself publicly. You sir get the gold!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
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11/20/20 01:23 AM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? I would point out your inconsistencies and outright wrongness but you along with all the other liberal/socialists have closed your mind to facts/truth and anything that would disparage your expected election results. You argue like the guy you are defending- just act smug, call names and label others without any facts to backup your words. Just bully any and everyone around you to get your way. What a sad existence if you look up to this guy for leadership. Big talk without any substance. It wasn't hard to see this type of election chaos developing- he'd been sowing the seeds for this as his popularity waned in the face of the covid crisis. He'd saw the handwriting on the wall and took the country down this road. Not the way to make America great again. My point about the election is I don't believe it has to be rigged for him to lose- he didn't win the popular vote last time, he narrowly won a group of the swing states at that time to take the electoral college. Do you think he actually won over the hearts of many people during the last four years or just maintained his base? AMERICA was always great!!! His acceptance speech had me thinking I was in a different country than him. I would speculate that if anyone repeated his speech even on this forum as their own he would be blasted down for being un american and told not to let the door hit him in the arse..
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Mark Perry]
#13777744
11/20/20 01:40 AM
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minnow
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Mark Perry- Agree. Those gains were apparently offset by how he did with women voters this time.
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: barndoor]
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11/20/20 01:50 AM
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hopalong
Pescador Loco
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Exactly...
And all the posts on here about counting this and that, TRUMP is the only one who EVER called for ballots to stop being counted any place.
I agree. Biden said keep counting votes and asked for everyone to be patience, but Trump said stop counting. Now the Republicans are complaining about uncounted votes. They are full of chit. He even threaten to kill funding to the USPS, so they couldn't deliver mail in ballots. He was also the one that said stop testing for COVID, so we wouldn't know how many people were contracting the virus. He then closed any COVID sites that was funded by federal money. Trump, along with his Republican counterparts, have a habit of abusing their power to prevent the truth from being revealed and transparency.
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
lake fork FISHERMANS COVE MARINA/reservations - 903 474 7479
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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11/20/20 01:54 AM
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steveiam
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[quote=the skipper]Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? You argue like the guy you are defending- just act smug, call names and label others without any facts to backup your words. Just bully any and everyone around you to get your way. What a sad existence if you look up to this guy for leadership. Big talk without any substance. It wasn't hard to see this type of election chaos developing- he'd been sowing the seeds for this as his popularity waned in the face of the covid crisis. He'd saw the handwriting on the wall and took the country down this road. Not the way to make America great again. My point about the election is I don't believe it has to be rigged for him to lose- he didn't win the popular vote last time, he narrowly won a group of the swing states at that time to take the electoral college. Do you think he actually won over the hearts of many people during the last four years or just maintained his base? AMERICA was always great!!! His acceptance speech had me thinking I was in a different country than him. I would speculate that if anyone repeated his speech even on this forum as their own he would be blasted down for being un american and told not to let the door hit him in the arse.. Actually not everyone on this forum is intimidated by Trump so I don’t believe that’s a correct statement-
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What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: barndoor]
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11/20/20 01:56 AM
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hopalong
Pescador Loco
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Anyone that's fine with the way this election went cheats on their taxes. Have Trump produced his tax information yet? look up the rachel madcow episode where she had a copy of his taxes, illegally but still a copy. yes, he paid.
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
lake fork FISHERMANS COVE MARINA/reservations - 903 474 7479
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: barndoor]
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11/20/20 01:57 AM
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hopalong
Pescador Loco
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I can’t believe trump would get so many votes after over three years of acting like himself publicly.
There is a sucker born everyday, then that sucker reproduce more suckers. and they are called liberal/socialists.
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
lake fork FISHERMANS COVE MARINA/reservations - 903 474 7479
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
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11/20/20 02:06 AM
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hopalong
Pescador Loco
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? please tell us how hard it is for some it geek to program a system to enter one result no matter which buttons or keys are pushed, we can wait. We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? see my above response Republicans claimed a 'glitch' on software used across Michigan gave Biden additional votes, but the state said it was human error that did not affect totals. and we all know the state is always right, right komrade? https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/v...507-d8caddb3-71da-4125-85be-9c8c124f66b7Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? what is false information when all we are doing is exactly what your side did in 2000? why is it that when republicans try to follow the law all we get is a double load of chit from liberal/socialists and called racist, homophobic, xenophobic etc. etc. you people better wake the hell up and realize the rope is getting tight and our side has had about enough of the cheating and lying from the left. I would point out your inconsistencies and outright wrongness but you along with all the other liberal/socialists have closed your mind to facts/truth and anything that would disparage your expected election results. You argue like the guy you are defending- just act smug, call names and label others without any facts to backup your words. Just bully any and everyone around you to get your way. What a sad existence if you look up to this guy for leadership. Big talk without any substance. It wasn't hard to see this type of election chaos developing- he'd been sowing the seeds for this as his popularity waned in the face of the covid crisis. He'd saw the handwriting on the wall and took the country down this road. Not the way to make America great again. My point about the election is I don't believe it has to be rigged for him to lose- he didn't win the popular vote last time, he narrowly won a group of the swing states at that time to take the electoral college. Do you think he actually won over the hearts of many people during the last four years or just maintained his base? what a sad and narrow minded individual you are. I will back up anything I post with facts as best I can gather them, you?
Last edited by hopalong; 11/20/20 02:11 AM.
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