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Re: Election 2020
[Re: the skipper]
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11/19/20 12:15 AM
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Bass-N-Buck Master
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? No, when the states quot counting and all those votes showed up while they weren't counting. We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? We dont know, that's why it should be investigated. If a party is willing to go to the lengths of creating fake documents to get warrants to spy, start Russia propaganda, etc, why wouldnt they try to rig an election? Did they all of sudden vet on the straight and narrow? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Yes, I dont care for polls either but there wouldnt be so much put into polls if they weren't effective. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? You use your brain, to put it simply although that's not the specifics categories I mean. Somehow I doubt you will see this but has twitter and facebook not shown biased during this election? The hunter Biden story? Many reports of conservative censorship? I could personally care less about some foriegn bots or whatever but I do care that those get let thru but factual speech gets censored because it doesnt meet a certain view point. All said and done, I dont care who wins the election. I have my personal pick but it's not the end all be all if he doesnt win or does win. I get a little tired of the one side or the other side, you have to be on one b.s. If dems run a candidate I like I will vote for that person, same with reps. I dont have to pick a party, nobody does. God doesnt care what kind of government we have, only that it would honor him, that's my deciding factorThere was interference in this election and it wasn’t outside the USA it came from within, I would hope we all would agree to that and this should scare the ship out of all of us!
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
#13776184
11/19/20 01:11 AM
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Joined: Jul 2011
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the skipper
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Why do I have the theme song to Gilligan's Island in my head watching the back and forth between The Skipper and the Minnow........ That's a pretty good one.
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
#13776375
11/19/20 02:59 AM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,180
Techfisher
Extreme Angler
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It's scary that Pelosi was re-elected to Speaker....the best this country can do is some 80 year old..??? Congress looks like a geriatric retirement home...at this rate the halls of our capital will be filled with walkers, aides pushing wheelchairs and bingo at lunch time...:)
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Bass-N-Buck Master]
#13776411
11/19/20 03:21 AM
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 714
minnow
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? No, when the states quot counting and all those votes showed up while they weren't counting. We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? We dont know, that's why it should be investigated. If a party is willing to go to the lengths of creating fake documents to get warrants to spy, start Russia propaganda, etc, why wouldnt they try to rig an election? Did they all of sudden vet on the straight and narrow? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Yes, I dont care for polls either but there wouldnt be so much put into polls if they weren't effective. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? You use your brain, to put it simply although that's not the specifics categories I mean. Somehow I doubt you will see this but has twitter and facebook not shown biased during this election? The hunter Biden story? Many reports of conservative censorship? I could personally care less about some foriegn bots or whatever but I do care that those get let thru but factual speech gets censored because it doesnt meet a certain view point. All said and done, I dont care who wins the election. I have my personal pick but it's not the end all be all if he doesnt win or does win. I get a little tired of the one side or the other side, you have to be on one b.s. If dems run a candidate I like I will vote for that person, same with reps. I dont have to pick a party, nobody does. God doesnt care what kind of government we have, only that it would honor him, that's my deciding factorThere was interference in this election and it wasn’t outside the USA it came from within, I would hope we all would agree to that and this should scare the ship out of all of us! Do you mean interference in actual election process or just the anti-Trump media bias trying to steer people away into the other direction?
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: the skipper]
#13776413
11/19/20 03:22 AM
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 714
minnow
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Why do I have the theme song to Gilligan's Island in my head watching the back and forth between The Skipper and the Minnow........ That's a pretty good one.
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Techfisher]
#13776590
11/19/20 12:20 PM
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Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 28,051
Uncle Zeek
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It's scary that Pelosi was re-elected to Speaker....the best this country can do is some 80 year old..??? Congress looks like a geriatric retirement home...at this rate the halls of our capital will be filled with walkers, aides pushing wheelchairs and bingo at lunch time...:)
So, a Rolling Stones concert?
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
#13776971
11/19/20 04:27 PM
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Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 19,756
Huckleberry
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: JAlfred]
#13777141
11/19/20 06:25 PM
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Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,561
Jeff From Iowa
Extreme Angler
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Anyone that doesn’t think new ballots and votes showing up this far past Election Day no matter who they are for isn’t proof and a truly compromised election is nuts!! At this point how is anyone to trust the election system. The bs media lying to us as do all the politicians. I mean seriously all left based media saying most secure election in history. What a load of bs. Massive mail in voting in no way can be considered secure! Actually President Trump's Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency declared the 2020 election “the most secure in American history". So, Tuesday night Trump fired his administration’s most senior cybersecurity official responsible for securing the presidential election, Christopher Krebs. Sir, that is not the "left based media", that is Trump's administration saying this. Clearly, Trump is trying to suppress the truth in order to keep his base riled up. And it's working unfortunately. Exactly... And all the posts on here about counting this and that, TRUMP is the only one who EVER called for ballots to stop being counted any place. Trump is the one who tried to disrupt this election by crippling the USPS. He even bragged about it multiple times on every platform available to him.
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
#13777148
11/19/20 06:26 PM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 17,899
steveiam
TFF Guru
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Anyone that doesn’t think new ballots and votes showing up this far past Election Day no matter who they are for isn’t proof and a truly compromised election is nuts!! At this point how is anyone to trust the election system. The bs media lying to us as do all the politicians. I mean seriously all left based media saying most secure election in history. What a load of bs. Massive mail in voting in no way can be considered secure! Actually President Trump's Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency declared the 2020 election “the most secure in American history". So, Tuesday night Trump fired his administration’s most senior cybersecurity official responsible for securing the presidential election, Christopher Krebs. Sir, that is not the "left based media", that is Trump's administration saying this. Clearly, Trump is trying to suppress the truth in order to keep his base riled up. And it's working unfortunately. Exactly... And all the posts on here about counting this and that, TRUMP is the only one who EVER called for ballots to stop being counted any place. Trump is the one who tried to disrupt this election by crippling the USPS. He even bragged about it multiple times on every platform available to him. You see only what you want to see-
What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
#13777174
11/19/20 06:46 PM
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Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 121,182
hopalong
Pescador Loco
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Pescador Loco
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Minnow, the flaw in your logic is that you think if someone is questioning the election integrity that they want Ttump to win. How do you know that to be the case? Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place? If we've spent the last 4 years investigating foriegn interference in our elections why would we be using foriegn stuff to count our ballots, with ties to Soros? Why would the dominion machines let employees change ballots? It's in the manual that it will allow it. Let's say Trump owned the machines and he used Russia as the place to send the count or get the machines, what then? I could keep going but these are fair questions with no end game in mind other than making sure your vote counts. That doesnt even cover the fake polls used for voter suppression, the censorship, etc. So my logic is flawed in who is crying about the election? It started months ago- well before election day. It's not much of a leap to surmise who is complaining about sour grapes: " Serious question, if the roles were reversed and while nobody was counting he received 100s of thousands of votes and won the election what do you believe would be taking place?" [b][/b][u][/u] I'm not sure how to answer this question... "while nobody was counting" So somebody just walked over and pulled the plug out of the wall every time somebody wearing a MAGA hat went into the booth? We had four years to prepare for foreign interference and we just used foreign *stuff* to count our ballots bought and paid for by Soros? So what you're saying is that we have voting machines that allowed an override of a personal ballot without any kind of audit trail that the adjustment was made? I bet the login/password was admin/123456 and no activity is logged of what happened while the user is logged in? So when a supervisor comes over and approves a price adjustment for your cashier on an item in the store- there's not a record created of the adjustment and who allowed it? Polls are a waste of time for me and most people- they're just pretty graphics to talk about and burn time until the next commercial break but I guarantee the campaign managers put a LOT of effort into obtaining solid polling data. That dictates largely how funds are directed. Censorship is the enemy of our republic- but then I see a post like this and wonder about the propagation of misleading and false information on social media and news outlets that editorialize rather than report facts. Give me facts, I don't need to be spoon fed opinions or theories. So if Russian bots (supporting republicans) and Chinese bots (supporting democrats) are posting inflammatory information- what do we do? I would point out your inconsistencies and outright wrongness but you along with all the other liberal/socialists have closed your mind to facts/truth and anything that would disparage your expected election results.
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: minnow]
#13777180
11/19/20 06:52 PM
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Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 121,182
hopalong
Pescador Loco
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Since minnow didnt want to answer the other questions I will ask this one. If it is proven that the voting machines or employees were changing votes or some other fraud that did effect the results are you going to accept that? You claim that if someone is questioning the security of our election it has to be because of our political leanings, well, does that mean your unwillingness to let the system play it out is because of your political leaning? I absolutely would accept that. The losers always question the election validity. You are just the latest in that long line- you don't remember the crying that happened four years ago about how bad the electoral college was. How we should do away with the electoral college and do a popular vote instead? Funny how neither side has questioned the electoral college process versus a popular vote this time. I wonder why? because once you know you have the ability to rig the voting system why get rid of it? if they did rig this thru the computer program I would hope that a whole chitload of votes become invalid and void.
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
lake fork FISHERMANS COVE MARINA/reservations - 903 474 7479
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
#13777206
11/19/20 07:06 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 30,142
Moto-Moto
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I can taste that frosty Shiner already, boys!
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Re: Election 2020
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
#13777262
11/19/20 07:40 PM
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Posts: 12,981
DI
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Near Death Joe got 140,000 votes at 3am in Michigan, all for him. Its obvious what's going on but as with 100's of other blatantly obvious crimes of politicians, nothing happens. FBI was in on the Russian debacle, so who the hell is going to do anything if the top law enforcement agency is part of it? Just sit back and watch, is all you can do.
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