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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 03:58 PM
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^^^^^ Would love to see it! Always willing to learn!
I can see WHY someone would leave those out, but it just leads to premature failure of those wires and connectors. Just replaced a fan motor 2 weeks ago that the plastic covering on those leads crumbled to the touch and the actual spade connectors were corroded to the point of being welded together.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: Dave-0]
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08/05/20 04:03 PM
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^^^^^ Would love to see it! Always willing to learn!
I can see WHY someone would leave those out, but it just leads to premature failure of those wires and connectors. Just replaced a fan motor 2 weeks ago that the plastic covering on those leads crumbled to the touch and the actual spade connectors were corroded to the point of being welded together. That unit had other issues. Likely the fab blade is the wrong pitch, other loose connectors down stream, loose termination of those connectors, etc... All those 2 wires do is route the winding's for CWSE or CCWSE. Low amperage and is part of the "start" winding. Capacitor gives the "umph" to start.. start winding kicks out and motor runs. Just think of how long units would last if they where made with quality parts. Motors and compressors that are not even strong enough to start without a boost, but cheap cheap cheap is the way to go.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 04:14 PM
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Man I knew I should have asked here before I hired someone. I certainly trust in the expertise of Jons3825 and Doxer, but my thoughts were the same as Dave, exposed wiring like that seems to be prone to weathering and premature sun damage.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: Dave-0]
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08/05/20 05:04 PM
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Had to get my AC Fan motor replaced. When the guy wired up the new one he passed some wires through the top of the unit. It wasn't like that before with the old unit. He said he does it this way to keep the wire from getting into the fan blades. It doesn't look right though and I've never seen it done this way on any other AC. Won't these wires wear out in the sun though as opposed to down inside the unit? Photo... This is common, typical, and industry wide. There have been no failures, deaths, injuries, etc related to this practice. The other option is a much more expensive motor that is from the maker of the unit. In my 32+ years of A/C Wholesale experience I can tell you that is 100% accurate! We have companies here that will charge you $250-300 to change a motor (it might look like yours) and then there are companies that charge $1500-1800 to do the same job (It might even look like yours)! You have got to be shartin me. I don't get away from the complexes I work at very often, but of the residential I have seen/worked on, never seen this. How can that even be allowed? Seems to me to be unethical and just plain lazy. I agree. Acceptable practice AC company wide or not, I have never seen a New Unit come that way. Looks rube goldberg to me. I would re-do it with the wires inside the case.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 05:13 PM
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when mine went out I got the correct one from grainger. east fix.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 05:16 PM
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Just lazy electrician. I was a electrician for 37 years and I couldn't go to sleep at night if I called this a completed job. Was there a inspection done on this job after it was completed?
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 05:58 PM
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He used a universal motor, if I'd known that i would have asked to order the factory motor, or ordered it myself. He offered to come back and hide the wires but some folks in here are now saying that the way it was done is standard.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 06:03 PM
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Who needs A/C? A bunch of pansies on here....
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: Dave-0]
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08/05/20 06:23 PM
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Had to get my AC Fan motor replaced. When the guy wired up the new one he passed some wires through the top of the unit. It wasn't like that before with the old unit. He said he does it this way to keep the wire from getting into the fan blades. It doesn't look right though and I've never seen it done this way on any other AC. Won't these wires wear out in the sun though as opposed to down inside the unit? Photo... This is common, typical, and industry wide. There have been no failures, deaths, injuries, etc related to this practice. The other option is a much more expensive motor that is from the maker of the unit. In my 32+ years of A/C Wholesale experience I can tell you that is 100% accurate! We have companies here that will charge you $250-300 to change a motor (it might look like yours) and then there are companies that charge $1500-1800 to do the same job (It might even look like yours)! You have got to be shartin me. I don't get away from the complexes I work at very often, but of the residential I have seen/worked on, never seen this. How can that even be allowed? Seems to me to be unethical and just plain lazy. Man I am not saying it is right just saying it is normal.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 06:35 PM
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He used a universal motor, if I'd known that i would have asked to order the factory motor, or ordered it myself. He offered to come back and hide the wires but some folks in here are now saying that the way it was done is standard. Well, we all got to learn a little something something. Personally, I would never do that. Where I work, we don't WANT to come back, there's plenty of other stuff to do. From a business stand point, time is money and getting a job done quick is paramount. And yes, I could see where it would be easy to check the windings with those leads available like that. Still wouldn't ever do it though. Hope it gets fixed to YOUR satisfaction. I think I remember reading in NEC something about exposed wires being out of the cabinet at one time. I could be wrong.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: Chris B]
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08/05/20 07:53 PM
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Had to get my AC Fan motor replaced. When the guy wired up the new one he passed some wires through the top of the unit. It wasn't like that before with the old unit. He said he does it this way to keep the wire from getting into the fan blades. It doesn't look right though and I've never seen it done this way on any other AC. Won't these wires wear out in the sun though as opposed to down inside the unit? Photo... This is common, typical, and industry wide. There have been no failures, deaths, injuries, etc related to this practice. The other option is a much more expensive motor that is from the maker of the unit. Jon, if you think this is bad you should see the advice given to wire a cooktop. I wish people would only answer on here when they truly know what they are talking about. There are people calling for this guy to lose his license for crying out loud. I can't find my code book right now but would be willing to bet that industry standard or not those exposed wires are a bust per national electrical code. from all the electrical work I do on 12v thru 220 (221, whatevah!) those 2 connectors won't last 6 months before the plastic turns brittle, not even heat shrink for water protection. every job I have ever been on or done only ground wires can be left exposed. as for his license, if that is the "standard" then so be it, it would not fly with me for a second no matter. if he replaced the fan he had access to the underside just as easy, pc of plastic conduit and if needed some wire ties and done. I am going off what I know of electrical code/exposed wires. may just be me but I have seen a double truckload of krappy work done for all sorts of reasons and hate seeing others be on the receiving end of it.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 07:56 PM
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well I just didn't like it so I re-routed the wires myself First I marked the connectors with a marker so I could put the back together correctly. Routed them back underneath the guard and tucked the wires into a piece of pvc with a cap, electrical tape to seal the open end, it should at least keep rain and sun off of the wires and the connectors. Then I used three UV rated (outdoor) zip ties to attach it to the existing raceway, and clipped the ends. Then I just routed the ground wire up through the hole where the cap pops on, there is extra space in the hole, hard to show on camera, and attached it back to the same post, but this time it is under the cap and out of sun and rain. What y'all think?
Last edited by lowew79; 08/05/20 08:00 PM.
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 08:01 PM
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Are we calling the AC police or not?
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: 1ShotNoKills]
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08/05/20 08:29 PM
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I would suggest putting a rubber gromet in the hole where you pulled that wire thru
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Re: AC repair, should I have him come back? (picture)
[Re: lowew79]
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08/05/20 08:38 PM
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LOL!!!! You rocked it brother! I'm not disagreeing with Ranger1, but that IS a ground wire and a grommet won't help in that situation. Too funny, you did good!
Laws won't fix a sin problem. What this world needs is a revival, change of the heart. ~The Skipper
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