Step up our game? Our Game is already light years ahead of China. Their "game" is CHILD LABOR, inferior raw materials, [censored] engineering, huge manufacturing tolerances, reverse engineering out designs, no cost of following safety standards.

Americans have the technology to do ANYTHING any other country can do. China steals our technology. They are the least innovative country on the planet. All they do is steal our technology and use all the things I said to make cheap sheet products that fall apart in the box on the way over.

Old school brands are made in China by US companies (for the most part) Consumers are going to have to decide if Made in the USA is worth paying a little more.

But they would have free healthcare and masters degrees in studies. The model exists.

I don't think we can beat China at their own game. We have let ourselves get behind in a lot of technology while they were improving. I have noticed that many of the top scientist in this country are of Oriental decent. Not sure how the smartest of theirs compared to the smartest of ours would turn out. I see that the valedictorian in many graduating classes are of some other nationality. That has illustrated the lower priority we have placed on education compared families that have immigrated here from some countries.

Step up our game? Our Game is already light years ahead of China. Their "game" is CHILD LABOR, inferior raw materials, [censored] engineering, huge manufacturing tolerances, reverse engineering out designs, no cost of following safety standards.

Americans have the technology to do ANYTHING any other country can do. China steals our technology. They are the least innovative country on the planet. All they do is steal our technology and use all the things I said to make cheap sheet products that fall apart in the box on the way over.

I don't think we can beat China at their own game. We have let ourselves get behind in a lot of technology while they were improving. I have noticed that many of the top scientist in this country are of Oriental decent. Not sure how the smartest of theirs compared to the smartest of ours would turn out. I see that the valedictorian in many graduating classes are of some other nationality. That has illustrated the lower priority we have placed on education compared families that have immigrated here from some countries.

Very tough to quit china unless tariffs are put in place. Which creates its own set of problems. Here's the basic problem though.

The CEO's of competing tool companies A and B, each make their tools in America. Profit margins for both companies are about 14%. Both have a stock price of 30 dollars a share. The next quarter the CEO of company B starts to source some of the tools from China at 1/3 the cost. Yeah, quality goes down a little, but customers don't seem to care much. Profit margins rise to 20%. His stock shoots up to 40 dollars a share. Since 80% of the CEO's compensation is in the form of options, he just pocketed enough money to retire wealthy. The following quarter CEO A who also wants to retire wealthy follows suit does the same thing. Rinse and repeat.

The Chinese government subsidizes the costs of many industries. I can't tell you how many times I've looked to bring bring the machining of a steel component back to the US only to find out that I can get a machined part from China cheaper than I can buy the raw steel here in the US. Hence the reason tariffs make at least some sense in my mind.

I think providing jobs to Mexico and central America would benefit us in multiple ways.
If we give all these people jobs where they currently live and still get inexpensive manufacturing, it slows down the illegal immigration problem saving us money.

I would like to visit China. I enjoyed Wild China on Netflix.

I've been saying that for years. I would rather see us help our neighbors than China any day.