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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:36 PM
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Tallgrass05
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How many deaths does it take to say it was not overblown out of proportion? 26,000 people are dead in the USA so far. Are 50,000 deaths the bar for not being overblown? Will you credit social distancing and other practices recommended by the experts if we stay below 50,000 deaths?
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:40 PM
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LoneStarSon
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What I hope people have learned from this is: 1) the importance of proper handwashing, 2) that whether an employee is part time or full time, it's cheaper to give them PTO than it is to have them come to work sick, 3) that if you need to cough or sneeze, cover your mouth and nose, preferably with a tissue and not just your elbow.
Two of the biggest reasons things aren't worse here are people have been washing their hands, and in North Texas, we're getting warmer weather and higher temps. Coronaviruses cannot survive as long in those conditions
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:42 PM
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The problem with “this mostly kills olds or those with preexisting conditions” is that nearly 50% of America is either diabetic, obese, or hypertensive. That’s a lot and it’s too much imo. The average age of death from this in Louisiana is 69, and 70% are black, and 95% of them have pre existing conditions. This virus has ravaged many nursing homes. My point from day 1 is that we could have isolated and protected that very defined group and let the vast majority of the country carry on and use common sense. The shut downs of businesses are pushing Constitutional rights, and I’m still 100% of the belief it’s intentional. When the dust settles, we’re going to probably have bigger problems than this virus. People will be exposed.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:42 PM
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H2O Seeker
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How many deaths does it take to say it was not overblown out of proportion? 26,000 people are dead in the USA so far. Are 50,000 deaths the bar for not being overblown? Will you credit social distancing and other practices recommended by the experts if we stay below 50,000 deaths? Was the swine flu pandemic in 2010 under Obamas watch overblown? I don't remember the economy grinding to a halt for that pandemic or the knee jerk social media and MSM response.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:44 PM
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donothin
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Possibly? Maybe but I don't think so. You have been a denier from the beginning. I do think the distancing and stay at home strategy has helped keep the number down so that most hospitals have not been over run and most patients with serious emergency problems are still able to get care.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:46 PM
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Davedave
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I don’t think I want to admit it was overblown. I think it was handled wrong. What I mean is that I do believe it’s a nasty virus, and has the potential to kill a lot more. It appears to be highly contagious.
Therefore, it will continue to spread. It will kill more people, most likely. All we have done is try to slow it down. That’s where I differ. I have wanted us to rip the band aid off, and get on with it. The reason the slow it down folks have given is not to overwhelm the hospitals. The issue I have is that is killing the economy. I understand they are trying to balance the two. I just don’t like the way it has been done. I don’t like the government paying people to stay home. That’s not something I will ever think is a good idea.
So, I don’t think it’s overblown. I think it’s a bad, nasty virus. I just don’t like the put the world on hold plan. We can’t stay on hold until a vaccine is ready, most likely. We have to face it full force at some point. Let’s get on with it.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:48 PM
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WAWI
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Hindsight is 20/20 maybe if we had instead of locking the economy and well, low risk people down we had focused on the high risk, the elderly, the nursing homes, testing all those that came in contact with those, throw in some public awareness of handwashing and generally being a sanitary type person. I wonder what that plan would have looked like. Instead politicians spent their time grabbing head lines, telling landlords what they could and could not do with private property, creating ridiculous rules which nobody really followed anyway. But those who cry wolf will now claim they were right cause the wolf turned out to be a Oskar the wiener dog.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:48 PM
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Jpurdue
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How many deaths does it take to say it was not overblown out of proportion? 26,000 people are dead in the USA so far. Are 50,000 deaths the bar for not being overblown? Will you credit social distancing and other practices recommended by the experts if we stay below 50,000 deaths? Was the swine flu pandemic in 2010 under Obamas watch overblown? I don't remember the economy grinding to a halt for that pandemic or the knee jerk social media and MSM response. During that entire outbreak H1N1 killed 12,000 Americans. More people have died so far in April of COVID-19 in the US. Also, because the swine flu was so much like regular flu they had a vaccine in a matter of a couple of months. Two different animals that dictate two different responses.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:49 PM
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COVID-19 has the leading cause of death in the United States for the last week plus in the face of the greatest lock down in our nation's history. 2,400 dead yesterday alone. In a normal flu season about 100 people die on a bad day from the flu. Honest question here WAWI, how many would have to die in a day before it wouldn't be blown way out of proportion?
I think it's becoming pretty clear the mortality rate isn't as early data indicated. Hopefully that'll help us get reopened sooner rather later. Kind of like how New York added 3700 new names to their body count. While openly admitting that those 3700 were PRESSUMED cases. Not confirmed, but pressumed. Numbers inflated to fit an agenda is part of the mind control. Congratulations on being one of the easily manipulated.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:51 PM
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Jpurdue
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COVID-19 has the leading cause of death in the United States for the last week plus in the face of the greatest lock down in our nation's history. 2,400 dead yesterday alone. In a normal flu season about 100 people die on a bad day from the flu. Honest question here WAWI, how many would have to die in a day before it wouldn't be blown way out of proportion?
I think it's becoming pretty clear the mortality rate isn't as early data indicated. Hopefully that'll help us get reopened sooner rather later. Kind of like how New York added 3700 new names to their body count. While openly admitting that those 3700 were PRESSUMED cases. Not confirmed, but pressumed. Numbers inflated to fit an agenda is part of the mind control. Congratulations on being one of the easily manipulated. The numbers I posted did not include those 3,700. Very foolish of them to count those numbers in my opinion as it is just going to add fuel to the conspiracy fire.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Jpurdue]
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04/15/20 01:52 PM
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WAWI
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How many deaths does it take to say it was not overblown out of proportion? 26,000 people are dead in the USA so far. Are 50,000 deaths the bar for not being overblown? Will you credit social distancing and other practices recommended by the experts if we stay below 50,000 deaths? Was the swine flu pandemic in 2010 under Obamas watch overblown? I don't remember the economy grinding to a halt for that pandemic or the knee jerk social media and MSM response. During that entire outbreak H1N1 killed 12,000 Americans. More people have died so far in April of COVID-19 in the US. Also, because the swine flu was so much like regular flu they had a vaccine in a matter of a couple of months. Two different animals that dictate two different responses. It was just killing kids, they weren't old enough to vote so......
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:52 PM
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Davedave
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Hindsight is 20/20 maybe if we had instead of locking the economy and well, low risk people down we had focused on the high risk, the elderly, the nursing homes, testing all those that came in contact with those, throw in some public awareness of handwashing and generally being a sanitary type person. I wonder what that plan would have looked like. Instead politicians spent their time grabbing head lines, telling landlords what they could and could not do with private property, creating ridiculous rules which nobody really followed anyway. But those who cry wolf will now claim they were right cause the wolf turned out to be a Oskar the wiener dog. Are you saying Oskar isn’t something to be scared of?
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:52 PM
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Ghost4BH
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Yes, we shut down our economy because 50% of our population have become giant flappy Ps. The evidence of being giant flappy Ps is on full display here, as you can see by the number of them who have infected this place.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:53 PM
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Tallgrass05
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How many deaths does it take to say it was not overblown out of proportion? 26,000 people are dead in the USA so far. Are 50,000 deaths the bar for not being overblown? Will you credit social distancing and other practices recommended by the experts if we stay below 50,000 deaths? Was the swine flu pandemic in 2010 under Obamas watch overblown? I don't remember the economy grinding to a halt for that pandemic or the knee jerk social media and MSM response. Comparing the swift federal action taken against H1N1 vs the federal action taken against COVID-19 will make you unhappy.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
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04/15/20 01:53 PM
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WAWI
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COVID-19 has the leading cause of death in the United States for the last week plus in the face of the greatest lock down in our nation's history. 2,400 dead yesterday alone. In a normal flu season about 100 people die on a bad day from the flu. Honest question here WAWI, how many would have to die in a day before it wouldn't be blown way out of proportion?
I think it's becoming pretty clear the mortality rate isn't as early data indicated. Hopefully that'll help us get reopened sooner rather later. Kind of like how New York added 3700 new names to their body count. While openly admitting that those 3700 were PRESSUMED cases. Not confirmed, but pressumed. Numbers inflated to fit an agenda is part of the mind control. Congratulations on being one of the easily manipulated. The numbers I posted did not include those 3,700. Very foolish of them to count those numbers in my opinion as it is just going to add fuel to the conspiracy fire. It's not just a fire the Democrats have used this as political fodder from day 1. Its shameful.
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