I know the answer. I know all answers, things that would blow your mind.

I will tell you when you PM me what your OG handle was on here.

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From what we have been told some hospitals have been fairly slow and have let staff go home early some days as of late. I know our call volume EMS wise has been way, way down as well. I do expect things to pick up and even spike but the last week has been kinda out of the norm for us.

No ma'am, I am not a denier. I am just searching for perspective as we should all be doing. I have said many times that we should be prudent because we don't know if this will putter out on its own and I am in support of protective measures. I will say it again " COVID-19 is real. It is scary. It does need to be deal with. However, the media needs to stop the rating driven reporting style that they have adopted over the past several years."

This type of coverage did not happen with the H1N1 virus that hit the world 10 years ago. H1N1 killed upwards of 500,000 people and was not covered as COVID-19 has been.

I stand by my opinion of the John Hopkins dashboard. I am thankful that John Hopkins has dedicated the resources to build and maintain the database. However, they elected to make it available to the general public and I think it's reasonable that they proactively provide a baseline so the general public and properly digest the information. This can be done by simply layering in data for other commonly known illnesses.

To summarize, I agree 100% with your assessment that we should keep the economy rolling. This is why I am concerned about the media coverage... it is hurting the economy. It is most certainly playing a roll in many of the decisions that are being made. Governors and Mayors are forced to lean on what the CDC is saying AND what the general public believes to be true from hysterical type reporting.

I don't think the media is the problem for the most part. I generally watch MSNBC and local news. They talk a lot about the issue but I think most of it is factual. Denying is not a good strategy but neither is panic. The more facts, the better. The POTUS was initially a part of the problem but seems to be much better. We need confidence in the leadership. Doing away with the WH office dealing with pandemics has undoubted delayed our response by several weeks. Now we are indiscriminately throwing money at the problem rather than being strategic. It is definitely overblown from the standpoint of people buying TP and other supplies. I think so many people lead boring lives, they find this something to be excited about and an excuse to spend out of control.

No one has the answer to that question because no one truly knows the number that have been infected. That is my whole point. But the same question wasn't asked before overreacting, when is this massive response truly justified. Not sure how, but I think alot of folks still don't get the incredibly basic concept that:

1. Viruses have been around since the dawn of man
2. They normally kill the elderly and those that are weakened.
3. Our immune system is incredible at countering them.

If they did understand these things, I'm not sure how they could make the arguement that "we don't have accurate data but let's overreact!".

Alumacraft 14, you cite the 90/day in automotive accidents. In 10 days, that's a cumulative 900. What you aren't getting is the exponential growth of infection. 900 infected one day can easily be 1800 in 10 days, 3600 in 20 days. Let's say that only 1% die. Well, that's 9 + 18 + 36 = 63, not too bad, right? But keep going with a new doubling every 10 days, and it doesn't take long to get to be shocking. After 160 days of exponential spread (which it seems to be doing), even that mere 1% mortality rate adds up to almost 59,000 dead.

BTW, for everyone to ponder: A report yesterday or the day before said that 20% of those requiring hospitalization in the US are UNDER age 40. So, it may not be such a monopoly on old folks.
Another trait that has been noted is that obese patients seem to have more trouble with it than those not. When I look around my county, I see trouble on this characteristic....

Your US number would only .000026% * 327,00000 = 85
Latest # is .007%, this will grow, a lot.

Good response.

So much BS and drama going around. Between my friends wife that works at the bigger and newer hospital here and a fireman/emt friend of mine, they havent seen much out of the norm.

I know its going to spike and those Italy numbers have me on edge. I just hope for the best.

Those are millennials being giant babies and wanting to take some selfies in the ER. They would be the first ones thrown out if I were in charge.

I think we covered all BS that we can stand for so long..........I guess it’s time to move on

They were probably being screened, not tested. There's a tremendous difference. Was the station set up before the parking area? Screening that way would say that anyone who made it to the parking lot was cleared to get inside the hospital for whatever reason they were there.

Exactly how are you going to know if you have or have not had contact with an infected person? There are many who have been show to shed the virus without even knowing they have it (referred to as asymptomatic). This is exactly why this problem is difficult to deal with, and why massive testing is a key to kicking it. Instead, we seem to have a "don't test, don't tell" policy in place. The gentleman with the infected family, though almost certainly infected, is NOT officially infected according to the government. Why? Well, if he hasn't been tested and confirmed, he's not counted! The US testing rate is closer to bottom notch than top notch when compared to many other countries.

We are about to throw 2 trillion $ at it with no strategic plan. It looks and sounds desperate which doesn't help build confidence. I am all for helping those who are suddenly out of work because of the closures. Not so much for the airlines and large corporations who have been making huge profits for the last several years. Not for giving everyone $s but those who need it to pay rent and put food on the table.

I think the books are cooked

I'm sure you're right.
50 deaths as of a week ago.
350 deaths as of today.
Huge hoax. Deep state. Blah blah blah.