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Re: KVD 2019 [Re: Big O Florida] #13436363 02/12/20 03:42 AM
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I seriously think the man is wise enough to have made the right decisions for himself, family, and sponsors. And to think that he will only be remembered by buying into Boyd’s ideas is some of the dumbest %#*+ I’ve ever herd!! The man can just flat out fish. Not to mention the knowledge he has stored away. His fan base is not dying, he is still recognized all over, (even this thread), and the guy will win again. You don’t have every angler in the world either scared of you, rooting for you, or hating you for beating them up!! Yeah I’m a KVD fan for sure, but someone’s argument on here is stupid as heck!!

To the O.P..... yeah looked pretty rough on him in 2019. I think he will make some adjustments this year and shine in one of the events. The dude has ice in his veins for sure.



*heard... A herd is a several livestock. Much like what Boyd now owns....


Bottom line, KVD will never be welcomed back to BASS or openly recognized and spoken about as a legend like many others currently are. People know what his role was in all of this. His future deal and same as the others like him will be like the new XFL players, it’s doubtful any of them will ever make it back into the big show of the NFL. They’ve sealed their fate. Brandon and Gerald got a early pass and them moving when they did benefited them greatly; next year won’t be so easy for the others. Yes, they are grown men who made their decisions, but it’s well known that peer pressure and being rushed to make a decision and commitment by the likes of KVD played a role in why some of them moved over.

The future for KVD in this industry is going to be limited to the broadcast booth for a 2nd or 3rd tier good old boys club league known for trying to hoodwink clueless sponsor executives into believing they are going to be getting value out of their advertising spends in delayed programming TV shows that run at 4am in the morning instead of promoting live onsite events that actually interact with the fans.


Can you cite any of this?


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Re: KVD 2019 [Re: R.J.E.] #13436416 02/12/20 04:24 AM
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obviously the sub forum is not going to work with this ghost.

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: Statton48] #13436425 02/12/20 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Statton48
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I seriously think the man is wise enough to have made the right decisions for himself, family, and sponsors. And to think that he will only be remembered by buying into Boyd’s ideas is some of the dumbest %#*+ I’ve ever herd!! The man can just flat out fish. Not to mention the knowledge he has stored away. His fan base is not dying, he is still recognized all over, (even this thread), and the guy will win again. You don’t have every angler in the world either scared of you, rooting for you, or hating you for beating them up!! Yeah I’m a KVD fan for sure, but someone’s argument on here is stupid as heck!!

To the O.P..... yeah looked pretty rough on him in 2019. I think he will make some adjustments this year and shine in one of the events. The dude has ice in his veins for sure.



*heard... A herd is a several livestock. Much like what Boyd now owns....

* is several. Not, “is a several”



cheers Proof reading is for suckers! Hate when being a smartazz bites ya’ in the rear. grin

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: Used2fish] #13436429 02/12/20 04:33 AM
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Big o you're drunk go home. The legends status goes for anyone who qualifies. That is not something they made up for 2 guys. It's the reason guys like mark Davis were still fishing the elites.



He won’t go back, he’s an owner in the MLF. Mark Zona also said that KVD will never fish BASS again. It will be interesting to see what (or where) his kids decide to do, if they try to fish professionally.

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: grout-scout] #13436430 02/12/20 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by Statton48
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Originally Posted by Statton48
I seriously think the man is wise enough to have made the right decisions for himself, family, and sponsors. And to think that he will only be remembered by buying into Boyd’s ideas is some of the dumbest %#*+ I’ve ever herd!! The man can just flat out fish. Not to mention the knowledge he has stored away. His fan base is not dying, he is still recognized all over, (even this thread), and the guy will win again. You don’t have every angler in the world either scared of you, rooting for you, or hating you for beating them up!! Yeah I’m a KVD fan for sure, but someone’s argument on here is stupid as heck!!

To the O.P..... yeah looked pretty rough on him in 2019. I think he will make some adjustments this year and shine in one of the events. The dude has ice in his veins for sure.



*heard... A herd is several livestock, much like what Boyd now owns....

* is several. Not, “is a several”





just kiddin...
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Re: KVD 2019 [Re: senko9S] #13436433 02/12/20 04:43 AM
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just kiddin...
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I was originally going to make a sheep reference, but then remembered that would be a flock and the only sheep were the guys at BASS. hammer Baaaahhhhhh

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: grout-scout] #13436459 02/12/20 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by senko9S
obviously the sub forum is not going to work with this ghost.


Agreed !!!!

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: R.J.E.] #13436464 02/12/20 05:41 AM
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PLEASE MOVE TO MLF/BASS SUB FORUM

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: senko9S] #13436618 02/12/20 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by senko9S
obviously the sub forum is not going to work with this ghost.


Did anyone really think it would? hmmm


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Re: KVD 2019 [Re: Big O Florida] #13436676 02/12/20 02:12 PM
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Seven-Time B.A.S.S. Angler of the Year • FLW Angler of the Year
Four-Time Classic Champion • Twenty-Five Time Bassmaster Winner
Three-Time MLF Winner


What more is there for him?


That’s pretty impressive and ordinarily that kind of accomplishment would place him amongst the few legends in the industry. Too bad what he will be most remembered for by most is being one of the primary B. Duckett shills to help him sell a bill of goods to a bunch of fellow anglers. Again, I equate him to someone like Pete Rose; betrayed his fellow peers and the industry that brought him all the fame and fortune.

What’s typical in this day and age, is that is the type of thing that’s rewarded by the media powerhouses. So yeah, he’ll be alright. Pete Rose being an example again, where he has been a long time commentator on MLB types of TV broadcasts; and cable news is chock full of handsomely paid commentators who are just like him, long time ago disgraced & corrupt crooks.



And remember.....opinions are like noses, every one has one. and in my opinion, Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame.


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Re: KVD 2019 [Re: grout-scout] #13436729 02/12/20 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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Big o you're drunk go home. The legends status goes for anyone who qualifies. That is not something they made up for 2 guys. It's the reason guys like mark Davis were still fishing the elites.



He won’t go back, he’s an owner in the MLF. Mark Zona also said that KVD will never fish BASS again. It will be interesting to see what (or where) his kids decide to do, if they try to fish professionally.



I never said he would go back. O said he wouldn't be welcomed back. Huge difference.

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Originally Posted by Used2fish
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Big o you're drunk go home. The legends status goes for anyone who qualifies. That is not something they made up for 2 guys. It's the reason guys like mark Davis were still fishing the elites.



He won’t go back, he’s an owner in the MLF. Mark Zona also said that KVD will never fish BASS again. It will be interesting to see what (or where) his kids decide to do, if they try to fish professionally.



I never said he would go back. O said he wouldn't be welcomed back. Huge difference.


Just because he has a legends exemption and current rules would allow his return to BASS does not mean he would be welcomed. He burnt a lot of bridges when he did what he did. It would have been one thing had he just left on his own, to do something different, but no, he was one of the key people in pressuring others to follow him, which was just helping Duckett sell them all a bill of goods.

The irony of it all was they did what they did to purportedly have a bigger say in their futures and destiny, only to then relinquish all that angler power over to KSE. So they are no better off than they were with BASS - worse actually, they are bound by a $25k per year buyout clause on their 3 year contracts. Karma is a b!tch!

Re: KVD 2019 [Re: Big O Florida] #13436799 02/12/20 03:13 PM
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I thought this thread was in regards to KVD having an off year in 2019 and how he could be on the decline. Addressing that someone cited his lifetime stats of 4 Classic wins and 7 AOY wins etc.

That is the subject I thought we were on.

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Re: KVD 2019 [Re: R.J.E.] #13437163 02/12/20 06:36 PM
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Maybe it's the "no information" rule...


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