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Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: ML56] #13381304 12/24/19 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ML56
My lights still work, Fayette is our electricity source in Brenham. laugh

Just because a power plant is next to you does not mean that is where you get your electricity from. When electricity hits the grid it can go most anywhere within reason. ERCOT controls the grid so it is sent to the transmission system they want it to go to.


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Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: texasflycaster] #13381748 12/24/19 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by texasflycaster
Im in Denton, but drive hundreds of miles regularly for fish.


What type fish are you after?

I have fished Lake Palestine and Fork with ice forming on my line and catching bass left and right!
Catfish in all the lakes LOVE cold weather and are biting well right now.
Crappie are bunched up right now on deep water humps in most lakes.

Point is .... you don't need to look for a warm water lake to catch fish!

Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: BillS2006] #13381768 12/24/19 05:21 PM
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So, we continue flaring the gas at a cost to producers, polluting the air, and keep shutting down coal plants? Sounds like a very good plan to me. We can all freeze in the dark.


They don't flare gas just to be flaring it ... there is a reason ... usually it is a sour well and the flare is burning the gas it takes to dump water and other reasons, it is really a very small amount in comparison.

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So, we continue flaring the gas at a cost to producers, polluting the air, and keep shutting down coal plants? Sounds like a very good plan to me. We can all freeze in the dark.


They don't flare gas just to be flaring it ... there is a reason ... usually it is a sour well and the flare is burning the gas it takes to dump water and other reasons, it is really a very small amount in comparison.



Not according to TCEQ that just issued permits to flare gas. Producers claim there is no market for the gas because the price is so low.


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A major pipeline operator is suing the Texas Railroad Commission — the state agency that regulates oil and gas drilling — alleging that it has blatantly disregarded longstanding state law that restricts the controversial and growing practice of burning off natural gas.

The lawsuit, filed Nov. 20 in Travis County District Court, is the latest development in a first-of-its-kind dispute between Tulsa-based Williams Cos. and Exco Operating Co. over the Dallas-based company’s authority to flare natural gas that comes up with the oil it pumps from the Eagle Ford Shale in South Texas. In December 2017, Exco asked the Railroad Commission for permission to burn off excess gas from dozens of oil wells and later asked for a two-year extension of that authority.

The request was unusual because the wells were already connected to a pipeline gathering system owned by Williams that's capable of transporting the fossil fuel to market. When oil and gas producers ask the Railroad Commission for permission to flare, which they have increasingly done amid a historic oil boom in the state, it is often because they are unable to hook up to a pipeline.

But in this case, Exco, which emerged from bankruptcy in July, said it was because the company didn't have a contract with Williams and couldn’t afford its rates to transport the gas even if it did. The company also noted that Williams historically had only been able to accept 70% of its gas, so it would need a permit to flare, anyway.

With oil production reaching historic levels in the Permian Basin as new pipeline construction has lagged, the price of natural gas in West Texas has traded in negative territory several times this year, prompting oil producers to flare it or pay pipeline operators with spare capacity to take it away.


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Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: BillS2006] #13381912 12/24/19 08:52 PM
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So, we continue flaring the gas at a cost to producers, polluting the air, and keep shutting down coal plants? Sounds like a very good plan to me. We can all freeze in the dark.


They don't flare gas just to be flaring it ... there is a reason ... usually it is a sour well and the flare is burning the gas it takes to dump water and other reasons, it is really a very small amount in comparison.



Not according to TCEQ that just issued permits to flare gas. Producers claim there is no market for the gas because the price is so low.

In the case of oil wells flaring the gas used to push the oil out .... I look for that to stop real soon.

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Originally Posted by BillS2006
With oil production reaching historic levels in the Permian Basin as new pipeline construction has lagged, the price of natural gas in West Texas has traded in negative territory several times this year, prompting oil producers to flare it or pay pipeline operators with spare capacity to take it away.


I spend most of my time lately in my old age working with gas wells, but I have spent time in South Texas and West Texas on oil production and I look for them to have a gas fired compressor on each location real soon and flare stacks removed. Pipeline does charge to transfer the gas, and some oil wells have gas injection to push the oil up, so they have to pay for the gas coming and going.
With a compressor, they can recirculate and the pads usually have several well on it, so one compressor can run them all.

Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: butch sanders] #13381972 12/24/19 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by butch sanders
UFO's fill up at Lake Arlington plant
frequently

They have permits.


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UFO's fill up at Lake Arlington plant
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They have permits.


i believe so

Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: machinist] #13688976 09/02/20 05:51 PM
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My lights still work, Fayette is our electricity source in Brenham. laugh

Just because a power plant is next to you does not mean that is where you get your electricity from. When electricity hits the grid it can go most anywhere within reason. ERCOT controls the grid so it is sent to the transmission system they want it to go to.


I have asked this in several different forums. DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY NEW GAS POWERED GENERATION FACILITES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN TEXAS WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS?


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Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: texasflycaster] #13689492 09/03/20 02:13 AM
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Luminat ownes most of the plants in North Texas. All gas fired plants have been closed. With the nuk plant in Glen Rose and the wind mills out west they have not built any gas fired plants in years.

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Originally Posted by TGalyon1
Luminat ownes most of the plants in North Texas. All gas fired plants have been closed. With the nuk plant in Glen Rose and the wind mills out west they have not built any gas fired plants in years.


TGaylon that is not a correct statement. Luminent has 4 gas plants still running. Graham, Hubbard, Striker and Trinidad. There is a plant called Wolf Hollow that is around Granbury somewhere but not on Lake Granbury. Garland Power & Light did have a gas fired plant on Lavon but I don't know for sure it still runs.
I almost forgot Handley Plant on Lake Arlington and Mountain Creek Plant on Mountain Creek Lake


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Luminat ownes most of the plants in North Texas. All gas fired plants have been closed. With the nuk plant in Glen Rose and the wind mills out west they have not built any gas fired plants in years.


TGaylon that is not a correct statement. Luminent has 4 gas plants still running. Graham, Hubbard, Striker and Trinidad. There is a plant called Wolf Hollow that is around Granbury somewhere but not on Lake Granbury. Garland Power & Light did have a gas fired plant on Lavon but I don't know for sure it still runs.
I almost forgot Handley Plant on Lake Arlington and Mountain Creek Plant on Mountain Creek Lake


These plants were put into operations in the last 10 years to replace the coal fired plants that were shut down or are going to be shut down?


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Re: Power Plant Lakes Still in Operation 2020 [Re: texasflycaster] #13690574 09/04/20 12:53 AM
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Those plants are all 0ver 40 years old and everyone was in operation before any of the lignite plants were built.


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Originally Posted by machinist
Those plants are all 0ver 40 years old and everyone was in operation before any of the lignite plants were built.


So we close down power plants without having replacements for them. Genius.


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