All of my mileage is documented. I have exact numbers on what my vehicles get because it's all commercial use. I know exactly how many miles each vehicle got in a year and exactly how much fuel each vehicle used because each one has it's own separate fuel card and I can look at fuel expenses by individual cards. However, I wasn't using my personal numbers because I have no personal numbers for toyota, never owned one. What I was going off of was the 2018 Manufacturer's specs for the vehicles. Here are specs for 2019 Ford, Toyota, Chevy, and an older Ford F150 because it was brought up in another comment. And actually, if I were to go back and base my numbers off of these 2019 numbers, you would save even more(2.5x as much) in a chevy because the 2019 shows a 5mpg HWY advantage over the Toyota.

I never have bought a vehicle because it got a certain MPG..If I like it and it does what I need it to do then I buy it. MPG has never been a deciding factor

So is price a deciding factor? If not, then that makes sense. If so, then why wouldn't you consider mpg as well?

I don't believe those are accounting for differences in axle ratio, transmission, etc. You can't list one mpg rating for a truck model - there are numerous combinations with significantly varying mpg ratings and tow ratings.

You two need to go find a tree and hug it.

Not to mention the Ford 2.7l, Ford 3.0l diesel and ecodiesel can easily tow a bass boat. And all get better economy.

MPG honestly isn’t a deciding factor for me either, I drive a diesel 95+% of the time. If fuel cost was my worry I wouldn’t do that. I bought the pickup I liked and would haul what I wanted it to haul. I’m making an argument to why I haven’t bought a Toyota, not an argument to why I did buy a GMC. If the Toyota got exceptional mileage I might deal with the fact that it’s ugly and outdated in my opinion. But it doesn’t get exceptional mileage. Instead it’s an ugly, outdated, fuel guzzling pickup with very little if any upfront cost benefits. But that’s just my opinion. I just don’t see a reason I would ever own one. To each their own.

I bought a Tundra a few months ago and love it. It tows my boat great and I love all the room it has. The only downfall is if you have kids in the backseat, you will not be able to reach them to beat them on long road trips (my kids are grown and out of the house so no worries).

Gas mileage is not great but I seem to do alright while cruising around town/long trips or towing. And I personally love the look of my truck.




If I was too worried about MPG's, I would have got a Ford but was concerned about reliability and resale and thought that they were just run of the mill as far as being well built and looks wise. I also have friends that had issues with the Fords that had a 5.0 that had motor slap at 80K, a ECO Boost turbo that grenaded at 60K, trannys blowing up at 50K and other serious mechanical issues. Not knocking Ford because my wife drives a Explorer and it has been a great vehicle with 65K on it but wanted a truck that I could depend on while towing my boat.

I got a great deal on my Tundra and could not pass up the 0% financing. I am very pleased with my truck and since I like to keep my vehicles for a long time, I feel like I got the best truck for me and that is all that matters.

I drive a Tundra because my '04 Ford F-250 cost me almost $20000 in two years with that 6.0 diesel. I said I never wanted to be in the middle of nowhere again and waiting for a tow truck to drive 125 miles to tow my truck. I hunt a lot and the Toyotas are all better 4x4 rigs than anything else out there. I don't care what the inside or outside of a truck looks like. I want it to get me to my hunt unit then get me out again. I did price the F-150 with ecoboost in 2015 but there was no way I was going out the door for $36500 with one.

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All of my mileage is documented. I have exact numbers on what my vehicles get because it's all commercial use. I know exactly how many miles each vehicle got in a year and exactly how much fuel each vehicle used because each one has it's own separate fuel card and I can look at fuel expenses by individual cards. However, I wasn't using my personal numbers because I have no personal numbers for toyota, never owned one. What I was going off of was the 2018 Manufacturer's specs for the vehicles. Here are specs for 2019 Ford, Toyota, Chevy, and an older Ford F150 because it was brought up in another comment. And actually, if I were to go back and base my numbers off of these 2019 numbers, you would save even more(2.5x as much) in a chevy because the 2019 shows a 5mpg HWY advantage over the Toyota.
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I don't believe those are accounting for differences in axle ratio, transmission, etc. You can't list one mpg rating for a truck model - there are numerous combinations with significantly varying mpg ratings and tow ratings.[/quote]
Exactly, there are lots of things that impact MPGs. I think the EPA numbers are the best you can do for comparison. My experience is that Toyota's numbers are closer to reality than Fords. Both my Tacomas and now my Tundra beat those numbers. I hear Ford is under investigation for fudging on their numbers. I did not care about MPGs when I bought the Tundra. It was about getting away from high maintenance costs for Fords.

Half of 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.

I don't believe those are accounting for differences in axle ratio, transmission, etc. You can't list one mpg rating for a truck model - there are numerous combinations with significantly varying mpg ratings and tow ratings.[/quote]
Exactly, there are lots of things that impact MPGs. I think the EPA numbers are the best you can do for comparison. My experience is that Toyota's numbers are closer to reality than Fords. Both my Tacomas and now my Tundra beat those numbers. I hear Ford is under investigation for fudging on their numbers. I did not care about MPGs when I bought the Tundra. It was about getting away from high maintenance costs for Fords. [/quote]


my 14 f150 just turned 92000 and the only problem I have had is a head temp sensor failed, 100.00 total cost with extended warranty. my dash mileage shows 15.5 - 16 and is fairly accurate according to my gas purchases. couldn't be happier with the truck so far. nov. 13 will be 5 yrs that I have had it.


2014 f150/5.0/3.55 gearing/4x4/6 speed auto/cold air intake, throttle body spacer, superchips tuner and using the mid range tune/34.5 tires.

Nice looking rig.

yep, except white is faster