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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: Dr JL]
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07/23/19 12:20 PM
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SAKS
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You also have to consider the body of water you were fishing. Does it have Zebra Muscles? If so no line is at fault. They cut all of them with ease and cut braid like it is butter. As the OP mentioned the break came a short distance above the bait.
We all have our line preferences and nothing at all wrong with that. I am just old school and gladly sacrifice a few small fish that are line sensitive to be sure I land the big fish when she bites. I tie direct with no leaders and never drop below 17# on one or two applications. Most of the time it is 20 Floro. for most of the other presentations and 25# for the heavy cover pitching. I require Braid for long-line presentations like dragging a Crig with lots of line out for a better hook set.
Braid on a daily basis on most of my rigs would just not work for me. The main reason is the wind and how Braid reacts to it. It is going to get wrapped around everything from bushes, rod tip and reel handles. My Spook with 3 sets of trebles does not like it. A twisted line tie spinner bait does not like it. Both get wrapped up frequently. You will learn that this presents a reel problem when under pressure to make clean cast one after the other with certain baits and fighting wind. I like this comment. Only difference for me is mono usually for the 17-25lb use, unless deeper water. I kinda use all line types since no line is best for ALL situations imo. This is where I am at also. I chose what I believe will get the job done for how I am fishing. I am not a fan of braid but it has its place and I use it but it is almost impossible in the wind, at least for me.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/23/19 02:43 PM
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ezbassin
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I use braid for top water frogs, heavy rigs for punching grass and on spinning gear. For braid I like Suffix 832 and Dawai Samuri braid. I use Fluorocarbon line for my weightless baits, my drop shot (with a bait caster) and other finesse techniques. I use it on my Tx. rigs and as a main line for my C.rig. Invizx and P Line Halo are the two that have worked the best for me. For jigs, chatter baits, spinner baits, and heavy baits I use P Line CXX copolymer line. For mid depth and shallow cranking and top water baits (other than frogs) I use McCoys Mean Green. For deep cranking I use Invizx Flluorocarbon line.
This weekend was my first experience with Samuri braid and I really like it a lot.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/23/19 02:59 PM
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Hog Jaw
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Its about what works for you .
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: ReelSlow]
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07/23/19 07:10 PM
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R.J.E.
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I think Rick Clunn uses mono and he's won a couple of Tournaments recently. I use all three though.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/23/19 10:39 PM
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pkskeetersr
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Yep it's all in the knot , good knot no problem!!
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/04/19 03:13 AM
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bassin518
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: Mark Perry]
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08/04/19 04:33 AM
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SAKS
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I think what most people fail to understand is that fluoro is ultra brittle and will shatter due to shock such as a backlash or stretch such as pulling hard on a snag. While the line doesnt break during this shatter (a lot of times) the line is basically ruined. My personal experience has been 100% different than this. Fluoro rarely if ever breaks for me on hooksett etc. It seems far from brittle to me. I did not have any issue with Invisx down in Mexico as far as breaking while landing fish but after 3 days it was damaging the line on the spool from the number of fish being landed and started breaking on hook set in the spool. Fish down there are easy to catch and in large numbers so I had not experienced that issue before. So now I recommend respooling after a couple of days of use. Now if your only catching 3 or 4 a day obviously that wont be necessary but we were catching 50-75 per day.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/04/19 07:18 AM
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Monty Wright
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Anyone see Swindle break a bait off on the cast and it land several seconds later on boat dock, a few days ago on his social media? "There goes $27"
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/04/19 11:13 AM
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Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King
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sunline is junk honestly...seaguar is my old faithful never snapped on me unless my rod inserts were trash.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: Champion1]
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08/04/19 12:19 PM
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Mark Wendler
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100% Berkley Flouro tied with a double San Diego Jam Knot per Mark Packs instructions and you will have zero problems and catch way more fish! IMO This^^^^^^^
Bass Club of Fort Worth "The answer to every problem in life is to go fishing. The bigger the problem, the longer the trip"
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/04/19 08:09 PM
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Bassalong
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20# Red Label....don't remember ever breaking it off on a hook set. 15# Red label....don"t remember ever breaking it on a hook set, but I'm using lighter rods with this.
Oh, and the knot is a carefully tied palomar.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/05/19 01:29 PM
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gogo1734
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It's amazing to me that someone said they don't like floro and it generated 6 pages of responses. A lot of those responses were negative and condescending. Get a grip fellas. (Some responses were helpful, but many were not)
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: Mark Perry]
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08/05/19 02:52 PM
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skeeter james
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I couldn't imagine not using fluoro. It has proven itself to me too many times. It's been great for me. Me too, I use flouro for just about all of my fishing.. I love the strength and how sensitive it is...
Formerly known as progator james 2013 Skeeter FX21 with a 250 SHO... Love this boat!!
James Moore 214-458-8024
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/05/19 03:44 PM
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Notaguide
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I tie on about a 4 ft leader of fluoro o to every spool of braid in various pounds of strength
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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08/05/19 05:01 PM
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etexbasser
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WOW. Everybody is different and everybody is sure. I get tickled at some of the post. I will never use this, this is all I use, your doing this wrong, you got to do it this way. Well, here is mine. I use flouro on several rigs, use red label, from 12 to 20 pound test. Use braid on some rigs, spider wire, power pro, whatever is on sale, and I use a palamar knot on everything, it is the only knot that will hold for me. The clinch knot never holds, I know I must be doing something wrong with it because so many people use it with success. The lakes I call home are heavy with timber and getting wrapped around something is a common happening, there are brush piles everywhere from fallen trees, and many times I bring limbs up with my fish. I caught a 4 pounder a few weeks back, had to lay the rod down, pull it up with my hands, pull part of the limb into the boat, stand on the limb to hold it and get the fish off. I think I will start a thread on what kind of chain saw to keep in the boat. And by the way, big game line, I will not allow it in my boat, that is the worst stuff to ever hit the fishing market. See, everybody has their own opinion.
Don Chumley If I ain't fishing, I ain't happy. But mostly I'm happy. I love being retired, the check is in the mail. Mt. 6:33
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