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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/22/19 12:40 PM
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Fishinfellow
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IMO the people that don't like Fluoro are either using a poor quality line or aren't using the appropriate lb test for the situation they're fishing. I say this because I used to be a fluorocarbon hater for years. I loved how it sank and the lower stretch but it would constantly break on hook-sets. I found out that the reason it was breaking was because I was only using Vanish and/or P-line Fluoroclear, both being some of the worst lines on the market. Sunline makes some great products but their lb test ratings seem to be a little high. The smaller diameter they advertise directly correlates to its abrasion resistance and lb test rating. Bump up your line to 17 lb seaguar or Berkley and you will notice much fewer break-offs.
Thats my money fish Kris Winhold
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/22/19 01:09 PM
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fivebites
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I'm using flouro, but I'm not sure it helps or not. I don't notice a higher catch ratio but because I live in Austin now and fish these ultra clear lakes I am trying to decide if it's going to make a difference. So far not really. I do like that it has less stretch than mono for jigs or T.R. It has a little more "feel" to it. Fishinfellow you're right about Vanish. That was my first experience with flouro and I hated it. It would break just looking at it! Went to Invisx and haven't had those issues.
Last Saturday I was fishing some 12lb red label with a deep diving crankbait and as I was reeling it back in open water...the line just broke. No resistance from a fish, no trees or brush to come across...nada. The lure just "disappeared". It was fresh line, had not dragged it over anything. Wierd.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/22/19 01:31 PM
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grout-scout
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The only fluoro I will buy now is Tatsu and Ill get it when it goes on sale due to its expensive cost. Ive tried all the others with the exception of Gamma and Ive been able to break them all. Tatsu is the only one thats held up for me.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 02:06 PM
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Kuhuna
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I dropped Fluoro about 2 years ago on everything except of one cranking rig and haven't looked back. I still catch a bunch of fish and have not seen a difference in quality or quantity. I run Big Game green and clear on almost all my rigs. I had the same problem with breaking off on the hook set no matter what knot I tried.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 02:10 PM
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jiggmann
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Yep done with red label! They must have started making it with cheap materials now
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 02:15 PM
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RedRaider3933
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I couldn't imagine not using fluoro. It has proven itself to me too many times. It's been great for me. Agree 100%. User error probably accounts for 90% of fluoro bashing.
Go Tech
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/22/19 02:29 PM
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avid_basser
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It's not the line...it's the knot. Flouro is pretty darn good and I use it quite exclusively with exception to my topwater and frog rods.
The trick to flouro is using the right knot and keeping your knots moist when cinching it down.
When I first started using it, I had issues with the knots snapping off. Then I saw a video with the tricks about how to keep the main loop above everything along with keeping the knot wet. Haven't had a breakoff at the knot in years.
And I use 7 lb Sunline Sniper in trees and rocks quite a bit.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 02:38 PM
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Bassndomer
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I switched to flouro 3 or 4 years ago. Started with Red Label and worked my way up to Sunline. It's pricey but it has worked for me. I believe it has allowed me to catch more fish than when I was using 15 lb. Big Game. I have not had it break like others are reporting and I like the no stretch characteristic of flouro. It's helped me get better hooksets when I'm out of position. I agree with the others, using the right knot and wetting the line when you make the knot are critical. But, like everything else in life, some folks will love it and some folks will hate it. I'll keep using it since it works for me.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 03:07 PM
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Mark Perry
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I use what many consider a value priced line in Sunline Super Fluoro. Its inexpensive and is very easy to manage and performs exceptionally well.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/22/19 03:35 PM
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Bissett
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What knot are you tying? I had the same problem and changed knots (and floro brand) and haven't had any issues since.
Not sure the name of the knot I use now but the Palomar on Red Label was what I kept having issues with. I now use Invisx or Bass Pro's brand. I will still use red label on moving baits that don't need a big hookset.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
[Re: jvc58dke]
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07/22/19 05:02 PM
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Champion1
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100% Berkley Flouro tied with a double San Diego Jam Knot per Mark Packs instructions and you will have zero problems and catch way more fish! IMO
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 05:27 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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People who hate Floro are just doing it wrong plain and simple. I couldn't imagine not using fluoro. It has proven itself to me too many times. It's been great for me. Agree 100%. User error probably accounts for 90% of fluoro bashing. 99.99%% of Floro Bashing is from user error
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 05:38 PM
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doctorb
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I think the debate of fluoro speaks for itself. I've never seen so many opinions on what specific brand and what type of knot has to be used to bring out the true greatness of fluorocarbon. Usually from what I've seen with that many opinions is that there is no one good answer.
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 05:48 PM
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5Redman8
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I couldn't imagine not using fluoro. It has proven itself to me too many times. It's been great for me. Amen to this
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Re: Done with Fluoro
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07/22/19 06:10 PM
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avid_basser
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I use the palomar knot about 99.8% of the time...the other .2 percent is when I'm tying on a jerk bait and use the rapala knot
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