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2 Stroke Oil
#13219821
07/19/19 09:16 PM
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Skolnuts
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Hey all,
I wanted to get opinions on 2 Stroke Oil.
I have a 2003 Mercury Optimax 115. The previous owner used Evinrude Johnson 2 Cycle Premium Synthetic Blend.
I don't have a problem with this oil except sometimes it is hard to find.
I see Mercury sells their own 2 Stroke Synthetic Blend but it is more expensive.
What do others use for this motor and do you have experiences or advice to share ?
Thanks !!
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13219851
07/19/19 10:02 PM
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tmd11111
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So you're looking to save a couple of dollars on what, 2 to 3 gallons a year tops. If thats the case then try Penzoil synthetic blend
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13219866
07/19/19 10:18 PM
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Ranger 177
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Have 2010 115 optimax use pennzoil synthetic blend with tc-3 get at academy or Walmart 18.00 gallon Never had problem smoking or plugs fouled used since bought boat. Just be careful mixing with other brands not recommended will coagulate and mess up oil reserve and motor
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13220165
07/20/19 11:48 AM
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Bob Landry
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Oils are not the same regardless of the labeling. Use the best you can get. Oil is cheaper than a motor. Domo-Online has very good prices, especially if you buy in quantity. I buy XD100 by the 6 gallon case.
2015 Seaark 1872 MV CC Etec-90 Two Helix 12 CHIRP SI's, , MinnKota Riptide ST80/i-pilot Link, Bob's Hydraulic 2020 Robalo R200 CC, Yamaha 150
Bitter Gun Owner Bitter Clinger Armed Infidel
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Ranger 177]
#13220193
07/20/19 01:01 PM
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Gamblinman
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Have 2010 115 optimax use pennzoil synthetic blend with tc-3 get at academy or Walmart 18.00 gallon Never had problem smoking or plugs fouled used since bought boat. Just be careful mixing with other brands not recommended will coagulate and mess up oil reserve and motor I have heard very good things about this oil from a mechanic who builds Mercury fishing and race motors. Very little to no smoking, which means less carbon build-up. No carbon build up in ring lands and piston surfaces.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13220245
07/20/19 02:41 PM
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dobbin
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If the previous owner was using this oil and it works well with the set up no way would I change to another oil. As said above some of these oils do not mix well together. Go with what has been working for this engine and keep on keeping on.
Champion Jigs
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13220783
07/21/19 02:08 AM
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ccoker
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I have heard from several mechanics I trust that the ONLY 2 stroke oil to use is Mercury or Yamaha
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13221150
07/21/19 04:26 PM
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Skolnuts
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Hey Thanks for all the replies.
Sounds like it's best to stick with what's been used and not change it, which was what I was planning and expected the feedback to be.
tmd11111 thanks for the reply, I don't recall mentioning I was looking to "save a couple of bucks" but rather looking for advice and suggestions. I did mention one oil was more expensive, simply as an observation.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13222788
07/23/19 10:29 AM
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Droyhef
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I like penzoil premium plus, been running it for many years no issues. I run it in a Yamaha.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13224989
07/25/19 04:17 AM
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texcajun
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The previous owner of my current rig used Amsoil synthetic 2 stroke motor oil in the motor. It has run exceptionally well for a 17 year old motor. I am not about to change what works just to dave a few bucks.
2002 Scandy White, 2002 Yamaha 90 Point me towards the water!
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13227410
07/28/19 02:51 AM
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sarcazmo
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I just made the switch to Pennzoil XLF in my opti. Very highly regarded over at scream and fly...
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13227819
07/28/19 05:37 PM
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T-racer @ Mallard Marine
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Ive been using Quantum Blue recently and really like it. Wont use anything else now.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13229009
07/29/19 07:19 PM
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PlanoPaul
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Another vote for Pennzoil Premium Plus. Best affordable oil on the shelf.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13235133
08/04/19 02:36 PM
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BassCat'99
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use what you have been, when you find it just buy a little extra so you don't run short. nothing wrong with having a few extra gallons set aside.
1999 Pantera Classic 1999 Merc 200hp EFI
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: PlanoPaul]
#13325696
10/29/19 03:57 AM
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crapicat
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Another vote for Pennzoil Premium Plus. Best affordable oil on the shelf. I use this oil in my boats, never any issues related to the oil...used all the other brands, just never noticed any real differences. As long as they have the rating specified in the owners manual (or better), you shouldn’t have any issues.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
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11/07/19 04:45 PM
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machinist
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Ok here is the deal, out of all the oils mentioned only Pennzoil has a refinery. None of the motor manufactures have a refinery. They all use oil supplied by a contractor
I fish on the edge and stay out of the middle
99 BassCat Jag w/225 Merc Optimax Retired TXU Outage Manager
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: machinist]
#13335077
11/07/19 07:33 PM
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Alumacraft 14
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Ok here is the deal, out of all the oils mentioned only Pennzoil has a refinery. None of the motor manufactures have a refinery. They all use oil supplied by a contractor It's true but outboard manufactures design the "blend" of additives to be used in the oils for their specific motor like yamalube etc.... So yes they require a refinery to make the oil but it is their recipe of sorts.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Alumacraft 14]
#13335884
11/08/19 04:14 PM
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machinist
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It's true but outboard manufactures design the "blend" of additives to be used in the oils for their specific motor like yamalube etc.... So yes they require a refinery to make the oil but it is their recipe of sorts.
I agree with that statement however there was a law passed that stated if a manufacturer required you to use their oil for the warranty to be good then they would have to supply you with their oil for free. None do so that tells me if the oil is TCW compliant it should meet any of the manufactures specs.
I fish on the edge and stay out of the middle
99 BassCat Jag w/225 Merc Optimax Retired TXU Outage Manager
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Alumacraft 14]
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11/08/19 04:45 PM
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tmd11111
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Ok here is the deal, out of all the oils mentioned only Pennzoil has a refinery. None of the motor manufactures have a refinery. They all use oil supplied by a contractor It's true but outboard manufactures design the "blend" of additives to be used in the oils for their specific motor like yamalube etc.... So yes they require a refinery to make the oil but it is their recipe of sorts. Only thing outboard manufactures design when it comes to oil is the label on the bottle. They specify the requirements the oil needs to meet and refineries produce it.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: tmd11111]
#13335952
11/08/19 05:04 PM
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Alumacraft 14
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Ok here is the deal, out of all the oils mentioned only Pennzoil has a refinery. None of the motor manufactures have a refinery. They all use oil supplied by a contractor It's true but outboard manufactures design the "blend" of additives to be used in the oils for their specific motor like yamalube etc.... So yes they require a refinery to make the oil but it is their recipe of sorts. Only thing outboard manufactures design when it comes to oil is the label on the bottle. They specify the requirements the oil needs to meet and refineries produce it. Wrong. Don't really have time to explain it, but here's an article that explains it: https://www.saltwatersportsman.com/two-stroke-engine-oil-for-fishing-boat/
Last edited by Alumacraft 14; 11/08/19 05:04 PM.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Alumacraft 14]
#13336074
11/08/19 07:01 PM
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tmd11111
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Ok here is the deal, out of all the oils mentioned only Pennzoil has a refinery. None of the motor manufactures have a refinery. They all use oil supplied by a contractor It's true but outboard manufactures design the "blend" of additives to be used in the oils for their specific motor like yamalube etc.... So yes they require a refinery to make the oil but it is their recipe of sorts. Only thing outboard manufactures design when it comes to oil is the label on the bottle. They specify the requirements the oil needs to meet and refineries produce it. Wrong. Don't really have time to explain it, but here's an article that explains it: https://www.saltwatersportsman.com/two-stroke-engine-oil-for-fishing-boat/Splitting hairs and not worth arguing over.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: Skolnuts]
#13336181
11/08/19 09:20 PM
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Coolarrow
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I’ve owned Evinrude, Johnson motors and I ran the OMC oil, I run the Synthetic blend in my Fast Strike 150 with Premium non ethanol fuel. I have no fuel issues. Perfect compression on a 23 year old motor. I have it checked every year when I do my maintenance. When I owned a Yamaha I ran yamalube. I had no fuel issues with it. I’ve never tried the aftermarket oils. I read about it a bunch. I figured that if I run the oil that the builder sells for it I would be ok. The additives seam to be where the cost difference is. But it comes down to your choice. What make you feel good.
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Re: 2 Stroke Oil
[Re: BROWNING STRONG]
#13355887
11/28/19 07:22 PM
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Dognot
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Amsoil hd marine is hard to beat I like Amsiol and use it also, But just to be clear I don't think their 2 stroke oil is tcw3 certified.
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