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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 12:04 PM
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David Welcher
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Fork is going to be awesome for the next few years, I've never seen so many shad as I have this year, and the grass is coming back.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 12:39 PM
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Douglas J
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To the OP, why would you buy and build at a place you hate?
Do you take meds? Angry old man? Someone slipped in and BOOM, BOOM #$%ed your old lady while you were trying to catch a fish? Your dad didn't take you fishing? Your mother wouldn't hold you?
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 12:40 PM
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RayBob
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I want to begin a discussion about tournaments on Lake Fork. I am in process of building a home on the Lake after much thought about which lake to retire upon. I choose Fork for a number of reasons. I knew the lake was very pressured, and I am prepared to deal with that. What I would like some help understanding is why the local folks are so welcoming to these national tournaments. They will bring more attention to a small (in comparison to other reservoirs) lake. The pressure on the fishery will diminish the fish stocks in the lake. Catch and release though widely practiced probably results in a substantial percentage of mortality--- my guess 20%. The tournaments are relentless and every week. I fear they will kill the goose that lays the Golden egg. It isn't just bass tournaments, crappie and catfish are under attack as well. They aren't catch and release for the most part. I know that business in the area need the dollars, but you have to wonder how much they will make if they destroy the fishery. I just don't see national attention as a good thing. I am glad the legends folks left the area proclaiming how friendly the local folks were; after all we are Texans.. Still, I just don't understand how there isn't more local concern for the fishery in general. Why does Texas parks and Wildlife sponsor and support this event? It's feather in their hat today for a depleted "has been" fishery tomorrow. The reservoir is aging and the guide numbers are staggering. Why does the SRA sponsor this event? What do they get from the notoriety? Why did folks volunteer for various tasks to facilitate the tournament? Just opening these thoughts for discussion and perhaps a little better understanding.. As a Rayburn fisherman I laugh at the insinuation by the OP. Fork is near pristine in comparison to the hammering Rayburn gets year round by huge pro and semi-pro T's and not to mention multiple 600 boat HS T's. Yeah, its 3 times larger but has 20 times the number of livewell transport of your 5 biggest fish up to 30 miles after living up to 8-9 hours in a 2x2 box of stale water that mimics a POW hotbox from May until October tourneys. I fail to see the root of your consternation. At the very least those quality tweeners get released on Fork.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it !
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 12:44 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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Forks tournament pressure is nothing compared to Rayburn and Toledo where the majority of fish brought to the scales would have to be released on Fork. The slot will keep fork productive for a long time.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 01:15 PM
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JIM SR.
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Mr Olducker, welcome to the neighborhood. In my opinion, the tournaments aren't as bad as some people say they are...especially if you live there. Yes the big tournaments, (2-3) get a little crowded, but they are off the water by 3pm. Public ramps get crowded, but most residents/rv parks have their own private ramp. Being retired you can fish M-F and usually have the lake to yourself. I would like to see the bass tournaments limit their weigh in fishes to 3 instead of 5, (redfish guys only weigh two), One thing I like is Fork is not a recreational lake, no ski boats, wake boats, or jetfleas..... Its a fishing lake, and the lake right now is in great shape. jim
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 01:42 PM
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Outdoordude
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TPWD wouldn't let the jewel of their black bass program be significantly degraded by tournaments without imposing more regulations. And, most of the big tournaments self-police themselves regarding fish care because they don't want or can't survive the black eye of high mortalities after events. Tournament mortalities still occur, but they're lower now with better scheduling, equipment, and education of tournament staff and anglers. I don't recall the literature on immediate catch and release (non-tournament casual fishing) mortalities right now but I assure you it's far lower than 20%.
Scott Jones
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 01:54 PM
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Tx Tree Grower
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Most people don't seem to realize what drives the stocking and conservation efforts by TPWD. They have to justify every dollar they spend. By justify I mean they have to show a $$ impact on the local economy because of the fishing taking place in that lake. In order for lakes to get the level of stocking and management that they do.....tax payers have to be using that resource. Lakes like Fork, Rayburn, etc get huge pressure but they also get a HUGE amount of management. Their stocking numbers are off the charts. I get that it's a double edged sword for the locals, but that is the way it works.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 02:37 PM
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Outlaw Outdoors
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The "promoting" of Fork falls into the same category as what the Toledo Bend Lake Association (TLBA) does for Toledo. It's all about the local economy in the area. When these organizations "show off" their local lake, they have one goal in mind - to attract visitors to stimulate the local economy.
For example, the local economic development group AND the Jasper County Chamber of Commerce allocate money each year to help offset a few of the larger tournament promoters expenses to encourage them to continue to have tournaments on Rayburn at Umphrey Pavilion. They realize the importance of having trucks and boats coming and going through their county.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 02:44 PM
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heb-bass
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Be thankful you have a place to retire that is one of the best fisheries in the world!!!
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 02:47 PM
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LA Ron
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I stared back fishing Lake Fork in 2006 when a friend we were building a house for wanted me to take him bass fishing. Two years later he caught his personal best ,a10.80. I try to fish it 8 to 10 times a year usually starting in the middle of the week thru the weekend. I have probably caught 20 fish over eight pounds. Fishing Louisiana the last 50 years I have caught one fish over 8. That's why I fish Lake Fork. ! When you're retired you can fish when ever you want. Lot less pressure in the middle of the week. I'm still looking for my personal best and believe if the good Lord's willing it will come from Fork. Another plus about the lake is that there a ramps all over the lake which allow you easier access it the wind is a problem. It's also full of slab crappie. Don't think you could ever go wrong retiring on Lake Fork.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 02:49 PM
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InTheClear
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you will always have the days of December, January, and February when the air temps are in the 30's with a North wind gusting at 25 mph with little to no fishing pressure, something to atleast look forward too!
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: buda13]
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07/01/19 03:54 PM
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Chris B
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Just hope and pray Bassmaster Magazine never lists Fork as the number 1 bass lake in the country... thats the death sentence for a lake.
Maybe its just me, but it feels like the pressure in Fork is way less these days than it was 10 years ago. If your plan is to move to Fork you should accept the fact now that it will continue to be the most promoted most heavily stocked fishery in the state. As it continues to get better the number of boats will only increase. Rankings came out today. #5 in the country.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 04:33 PM
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Bruce Allen
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probably because of the stats from the Elite tournament in May. There are not many lakes in this country that produces 100+ # bags on 20 fish.
Lake Fork Anglers Every Thursday Daytime Tournaments. Lake Fork Sportsman's Association www.lakeforksa.com/We are VERY PROUD of our Induction into the Texas Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: InTheClear]
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07/01/19 04:46 PM
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Mark Perry
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you will always have the days of December, January, and February when the air temps are in the 30's with a North wind gusting at 25 mph with little to no fishing pressure, something to atleast look forward too! And those are some great days to have a real shot at some big fish. I love being out there that time of year.
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Re: Dialogue about Lake Fork and tournaments
[Re: olducker]
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07/01/19 04:59 PM
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Larry Mosby
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I honestly dont see the concerns over Forks future. I think if TPWD is hosting a Bassmaster event on its waters then they feel confident of its future as a big bass producer and holding up to the pressure of tournaments. I do believe theyre on top of this more than one might imagine.
Larry Mosby
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