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 Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: bassfinder78155]
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05/14/19 02:00 PM
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The game warden in the article is prob one of the best wardens in the state too.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: bassfinder78155]
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05/14/19 02:15 PM
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I read somewhere there was no cheating in hs tournaments . if there is money or glory cheaters gonna cheat the biggest problem is that when a guy cant pass a poly the tournament directors are always wringing their hands trying to figure out a way not to disqualify a person because it looks bad on the trail.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: bassfinder78155]
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05/14/19 02:18 PM
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Wow, a captain cheating, go figure. Sad to see that.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: bassfinder78155]
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05/14/19 02:43 PM
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The kids knew the rules too, anyone pointing fingers at them as well?
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 02:53 PM
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I like how teams win or get a top 10 and theyve never been on the lake before, zero pre fishing, first time on the lake. Some of these teams need to go straight to the pro rank, just ask their parents. Lots of teams are doing it the right way, too many are buying their way in. Ive been told numerous times, why would I be their boat captain when I can get someone else to do it and possibly win. One dad was just posting how his son had put in the hard work then the post right before stated hed never been on the lake prior to the tournament. Same dad that isnt the boat captain but fishes all the time. Nothing like teaching them the right way.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 02:56 PM
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I like how teams win or get a top 10 and they’ve never been on the lake before, zero pre fishing, first time on the lake. Some of these teams need to go straight to the pro rank, just ask their parents. Lots of teams are doing it the right way, too many are buying their way in. I’ve been told numerous times, “why would I be their boat captain when I can get someone else to do it and possibly win”. One dad was just posting how his son had “put in the hard work” then the post right before stated he’d never been on the lake prior to the tournament. Same dad that isn’t the boat captain but fishes all the time. Nothing like teaching them the right way. And this is exactly why ONLY parents/legal guardians of one of the team members should be allowed to be a boat captain. Too many parents out there willing to coddle their child to the top by paying for the best boat captain. It really is pathetic.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 03:02 PM
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how are people like him and Jason May allowed to captain these HS teams? In defense of these organizations alot of the teams, clubs, what have you are run by people who aren't involved in the "fishing community" for lack of a better word. They aren't on here, the name Robby Rose doesnt jump out to them, when I was captaining I had to have a background check done thru the school that the district I'm in does on every volunteer, I'm sure it's for felonies, etc. Beyond that nothing else. Hell these people still get entry into tournies now run by people who know .....
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 03:08 PM
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RedRaider3933
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how are people like him and Jason May allowed to captain these HS teams? In defense of these organizations alot of the teams, clubs, what have you are run by people who aren't involved in the "fishing community" for lack of a better word. They aren't on here, the name Robby Rose doesnt jump out to them, when I was captaining I had to have a background check done thru the school that the district I'm in does on every volunteer, I'm sure it's for felonies, etc. Beyond that nothing else. Hell these people still get entry into tournies now run by people who know ..... Maybe a registry should be started for cheaters kind of like for pedophiles and registered sex offenders.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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05/14/19 03:14 PM
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I like how teams win or get a top 10 and they’ve never been on the lake before, zero pre fishing, first time on the lake. Some of these teams need to go straight to the pro rank, just ask their parents. Lots of teams are doing it the right way, too many are buying their way in. I’ve been told numerous times, “why would I be their boat captain when I can get someone else to do it and possibly win”. One dad was just posting how his son had “put in the hard work” then the post right before stated he’d never been on the lake prior to the tournament. Same dad that isn’t the boat captain but fishes all the time. Nothing like teaching them the right way. And this is exactly why ONLY parents/legal guardians of one of the team members should be allowed to be a boat captain. Too many parents out there willing to coddle their child to the top by paying for the best boat captain. It really is pathetic. those same parents will have no problem throwing a fish in the box to help the kid either
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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05/14/19 03:23 PM
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how are people like him and Jason May allowed to captain these HS teams? In defense of these organizations alot of the teams, clubs, what have you are run by people who aren't involved in the "fishing community" for lack of a better word. They aren't on here, the name Robby Rose doesnt jump out to them, when I was captaining I had to have a background check done thru the school that the district I'm in does on every volunteer, I'm sure it's for felonies, etc. Beyond that nothing else. Hell these people still get entry into tournies now run by people who know ..... Maybe a registry should be started for cheaters kind of like for pedophiles and registered sex offenders. In today's current environment you better make sure any names you add to that registry have been actually convicted or have admitted cheating or chances are high you will be sued. That is the reason people with questionable activities regarding tournaments are still allowed to fish. If you publicly turn them away over possible cheating and they were not convicted of it then you stand a good chance of being sued.
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 03:23 PM
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Boy I can't wait I can't wait until these kids stop fishing high school events and move up to bass champs and media and TTZ. It's going to be really interesting
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: bassfinder78155]
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05/14/19 03:25 PM
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Mark I see your point but tournament directors should also grow a pair and have the right to refuse service to anyone just like the rest of Americas businesses
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 03:29 PM
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Mark I see your point but tournament directors should also grow a pair and have the right to refuse service to anyone just like the rest of Americas businesses they do this fella has been barred from fishing large trail events in the past
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
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05/14/19 03:30 PM
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if you publicly labeled someone a cheater without proof, I could see the opening. Quietly and privately telling someone they cannot participate in your event is not grounds for any legal action
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Re: High School fish tournament fraud
[Re: RedEar12]
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05/14/19 03:32 PM
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Boy I can't wait I can't wait until these kids stop fishing high school events and move up to bass champs and media and TTZ. It's going to be really interesting Why? What is going to be interesting about it? My high school senior and his high school senior partner fished THSBA and Media this year. I captained for them in THSBA and in Media they operated the boat themselves and pre-fished, planned, etc, all by themselves because I was fishing the same division of Media against them. I literally cant think of one story from this season of Media or THSBA that anyone would find interesting.
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