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Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129488 04/21/19 01:10 PM
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Could you elaborate on why you did not take the fish home and eat it yourself, youknow the legal and moral course of action

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Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129549 04/21/19 02:08 PM
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Please seek help. Immediately.


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Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: Chris B] #13129591 04/21/19 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris B
This is the most bizarre fish hacking story I have ever read on here.


Agreed

There was a guy selling cat pelts on the Trading Post last year, This has to be a runner up to him

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129646 04/21/19 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lowew79
I guess I'm not understanding all the hate for trying to take care of a fish so it can be caught later.

Thanks for the help, those of you gave me advice on how to take care of this in the future, and how to avoid it in the first place.

I explained three times now my thinking on making sure it was dead and putting it back in the water so other animals could eat it, TFF says its bad logic, and apparently it is illegal. It made sense to me, oh well. If you can't tell I'm a little strange.



If a fish is bleeding chances are it is going to die, now or later. So you have to mitigate the situation by leaving the hook in the gut, if you can't then ... oh well. It has been a long time since I gut hooked a bass, using live bait will increase your chances of gut hooking a fish. Funny story.
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Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129648 04/21/19 04:07 PM
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This poor guy is getting more grief than when I misspelled Lake Welsh.

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129687 04/21/19 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lowew79
I guess I'm not understanding all the hate for trying to take care of a fish so it can be caught later.

Thanks for the help, those of you gave me advice on how to take care of this in the future, and how to avoid it in the first place.

I explained three times now my thinking on making sure it was dead and putting it back in the water so other animals could eat it, TFF says its bad logic, and apparently it is illegal. It made sense to me, oh well. If you can't tell I'm a little strange.


Bass swallow hooks regularly, especially on weightless presentations. Don't stress over it. It is a fish and a small one at that. Too many folks think if you dig a hole and stock it with bait and bass in 20 years it will be full of giant bass. It doesn't work that way.

The bass proliferate to the point that if you don't remove the small ones every year you wind up with a lake full of stunted bass that may never exceed 2 pounds. I fished a beautiful private lake a couple weeks ago near Mineral Wells that had been electro-shocked the fall before. It was determined the lake was over populated with small bass. We were asked to kill every fish we caught 16" and down. We killed 78 bass out that day and threw them in a ditch for the buzzards.

Dunno if that makes you feel any better but it needs to be done every year.

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: barbarian] #13129706 04/21/19 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by barbarian
I would love to hear your process of when you decide to keep a fish and bring home for eating?

Do you put on ice or livewell? If ice, do you kill the fish before freezing it to death? If so, how?
If it goes in livewell, do you filet it alive or ice first or just drain livewell and wait a bit before knife?


Ill go first.

As a kayak fisherman ive got no livewell or large cooler. So I will place the bass or other fish on a Stringer and hang them over the side of the kayak. Sometimes I don't set out to keep fish but it occurs to me to do so. In such cases I'll rig up a makeshift stringer like MacGyver would have.

When the day is done I will throw the fish into my small ice chest and clean them when I get back home or back to Camp or what not. In this case a friend clean them for me. Hes much better at it than me. Thanks Tommar!

See example A. from Falcon back in January.

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I am 100% behind releasing large fish. However I think when we started putting bass on a pedestal and acting as if they were untouchable we really did not help the sport and in a lot of ways we got away from why we, and our fathers and their fathers started fishing in the first place.


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Pulled a gun on his dryer and they caught a bunch of fish.
Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129717 04/21/19 05:48 PM
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Prime example of why Im hesitant to ever fish with a stranger from the TFF.

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: barbarian] #13129733 04/21/19 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wetduck
Could you elaborate on why you did not take the fish home and eat it yourself, youknow the legal and moral course of action


OH MY GOODNESS!

I forgot a vital detail in my story. This little lake (not telling where, I seem to have a lot of enemies on here lately) has signs all around it that say "Catch and release only" (not private but more pond than lake).


I wasn't keeping fish, and no one else was fishing the lake so no one to give it to anyway if it was legal to do so. I was bank fishing so no fancy schmancy live well. I didn't have a cooler with me, and it was a good 30-45 minute walk back to the truck so a dead fish might have turned bad by then? (How long will a un-iced dead fish last before it is not safe to eat it? It would have been about an hour until i got home if I'd left right away.)

If I could do it over:

-I would still be in the position of disposing of a dead fish I couldn't keep. I guess if I could do it differently I would just throw it back whole so I wouldn't look like a weirdo.

Even if it was legal to keep the fish:

-So given that I had no iced cooler to bring it home with, and assuming the fish would have been unsafe to eat by the time I got home, I'd still want to somehow put it back in the lake where it could be meal for other animals. However, I'd put it back whole, since I now know that fish can't feel pain (so it wouldn't have been "suffering" anyway even if it was alive) and it's illegal to cut up a game fish. As you all know, other animals would / will feed on a dead fish body, so in my mind anyway, that's not really a waste, especially since it was an accidental death in the first place. It seems like the least wasteful option given the situation would still be to put the body back in the water.

Ultimately

It sounds like my only good legal option really was to put the whole, un-mutilated body back in the water? I explained why I cut it up already, it made sense in my mind, quick death, making sure it was really dead (floating sideways so it probably was) not causing suffering ect.

Originally Posted by barbarian
I would love to hear your process of when you decide to keep a fish and bring home for eating?

Do you put on ice or livewell? If ice, do you kill the fish before freezing it to death? If so, how?
If it goes in livewell, do you filet it alive or ice first or just drain livewell and wait a bit before knife?


On the rare occasion I did keep fish to eat (from a lake where it is legal to do so). I used to give them a good thump on the head and filet them right away and put them in a ice cold cooler. Or I would cut the heads off and put the bodies in the cooler. I found out this is illegal as well. I guess the Game Warden wants you to keep fish completely whole until you are done fishing for the day.

Honestly, I haven't kept fish since I learned that law. If I were to do so now, with what I've learned on here, I would put them quickly in a ice bath cooler, try to shock them quickly. But yeah if I had my druthers, I'd still process them into filets as soon I pulled them out of the water.


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Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: Drodge] #13129792 04/21/19 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Drodge
Prime example of why Im hesitant to ever fish with a stranger from the TFF.


Lol

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: Brutaldudeski] #13129794 04/21/19 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Probably the weirdest story anyone has ever shared on here..... I wouldnt of told anyone that you spent half an hour trying to save a 1.5lb fish. Or that u then chopped him up like Dexter......

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This story wasnt that bad until you felt all guilty and cut it into pieces. Weirdo
You guys are wrong. Funny though! laugh

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129795 04/21/19 07:30 PM
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Do we have a Weird Post category? This one might be the winner.

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129855 04/21/19 09:29 PM
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I haven't read all the responses but when I have a fish that doesn't swim off I don't hack it up roflmao

Assuming its legal size I just toss it in the livewell and give it to someone at the marina or boat ramp. I have NEVER failed to find someone to take a dead fish off my hands even if its just one. Most lakes have a fishing pier or some sort of pay to fish barge. Just roll up to the dock and you will find someone who wants it.

Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: karpbuster] #13129868 04/21/19 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by karpbuster
Originally Posted by lowew79
I guess I'm not understanding all the hate for trying to take care of a fish so it can be caught later.

Thanks for the help, those of you gave me advice on how to take care of this in the future, and how to avoid it in the first place.

I explained three times now my thinking on making sure it was dead and putting it back in the water so other animals could eat it, TFF says its bad logic, and apparently it is illegal. It made sense to me, oh well. If you can't tell I'm a little strange.



If a fish is bleeding chances are it is going to die, now or later. So you have to mitigate the situation by leaving the hook in the gut, if you can't then ... oh well. It has been a long time since I gut hooked a bass, using live bait will increase your chances of gut hooking a fish. Funny story.
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Re: Accidentally killed a bass today [Re: lowew79] #13129887 04/21/19 10:16 PM
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Been with a few gals that it was like being with a dead fish, but I did not hack them up. Couldn't get them to "swim" away either.


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