Good to hear it's doing well, I agree with the above poster, it was interesting hearing from him on here. Hope he raises the record.

I checked my notes. He removed 7,000 in 2016 and donated another 1000 to Falcon in 2017. I assume the 7,000 were either sold, donated, eaten, or destroyed. Probably a combination.

A record from there or any private lake is meaningless. Kinda like deer with orange tags in their ears in cages. I hope some little kid with a snoppy pole and a minnow catches the next record from under the trinity river bridge lol. That would be fitting.

Jalisco is just fine. As is La Perla. I could be mistaken, but I think Dr. Gary posted his Jalisco contract with TPWD right here. What could and could not be done with fish from Jalisco was spelled out explicitly. The 1,000 or so that were released into Falcon is fact. The guys from Falcon Lake Tackle helped release them in several good areas, as did other Falcon regulars. There are a couple ranches inside the gates of the original La Perla. I don't think the small ranch for sale is Dr. Schwarz's. It's another family's place.

As for why Dr. Schwarz hasn't posted here in a long time. Why would he? He wasn't treated very well the last time he tried.

First part of that is awesome! I wish nothing but the best of luck for the man and his mission. The last line sucks- but this is TFF and I get it.

Meaningless, you say??

That's painting with a pretty broad paintbrush there buddy. I respect everyone's opinion but it ain't meaningless to a lot of folks including myself.

I suppose you are in the group that thinks you can simply dig a hole in the ground, fill it with money and a few years later have yourself a genuine big bass factory.

Lots of folks have tried to grow a State Record Bass since the beginning of time and nobody has managed to do it yet much less a World Record. And by the way a 22 pound bass is a WORLD away from an 18 pound bass regardless of what you think.

If it were as easy as some seem to think it is to grow a state record it would have been done many times over by now.

I don't think it's easy at all! I also do not think it would or should count at all!! Same way I feel about high fenced deer.

Not that it matters but there are two sets of records. One for private water and one for public.

The whole "high-fenced" deer argument has been made many times here.

Bottom line is that there have been thousands of freakishly large deer raised in the confines of a high fence ranch. There has yet to be One Single 18 pound Bass raised by anyone. That is the only point I am trying to make.

Whether it should count or not is a moot point. It is like a unicorn.

Lake Fork is the only one I'm aware of that grew a 18 lb'er.

That is correct Ronnie.

Saying a state record bass shouldn't count because it was grown in a private lake is like saying flying reindeer shouldn't be allowed to pull Santa's sleigh because its not fair to the reindeer that can't fly.

I'm not saying the act of growing a giant bass is not worthy of note or easy. I'm saying that for it to be a record it has to be accessible to all people. Its the blue collar in me. Hell I could pay to fish stuff like that more so than most but it doesnt do much for me. I like the process, that's why I dont fish with guides anymore. Kudos to whoever grows big fish and they are impressive just dont call them records or put a giant asterix. And please no one get butt hurt cause it's just an opinion. But I think it's pretty reasonable opinion

I get where you're coming from WAWI. I am as big a redneck as anyone on here.

My point is that no matter how much money you throw into a lake Nobody has grown an 18 pound bass. So when the guys say, "That shouldn't count as a record"

So what is it they are saying shouldn't count??

I dont know, I'm no lawyer, it just doesnt pass my smell test. Something about it feels wrong. Give him a blue ribbon or something.

I think it should count as a state record. A private lake state record if it's caught in a private lake but doesn't look like it's gonna happen. Also doesn't look promising that a new state record is going to be caught in public waters either. It's been what 27 years since the previous record was caught and technology has been improved beyond our wildest imagination. I mean we can actually see a fish bite our lure now. I'm believing kinda sorta that there's not a new state record swimming in Texas waters public or private. So I guess Ken is right, the question or answer is a moot point.